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      Re: HMS Victory
      In my opinion,HMS Victory,by Noel CL Hackney is the best by far as a guide to the step by step rigging of this ship and other English ships-of-the-line.It was written by a modeler for other modelers .I have all the other books on modeling Victory but this little book, that I paid $1.98 for new in a hobby store 35 years ago ,is the best.Unfortunately they now only come up on the secondary market and only occasionally and they want up to $150.00 bucks for it.There are only 7 libraries in the world that stock it and there was only one printing made in the English language in 1970,the others are in German.If anyone knows how to put a little pressure on the owners of the rights to this book,please do so. Mr Hackney was foremost a modeler and he went to a lot of effort to make sure this information was available to modelers.I am sure that he would be very unhappy today to see the price that modelers have to pay and to whom the money is going.I am sure that in his lifetime it wasn't him.
      Check it out on the web ISBN 0 85059 053 1.

      I personally used his book over a 30 year period when building my own Victory and I don't think that I would have finished it as easily or as accurately as I did without it.It is a real shame that it will not be available to future modelers.And no I am not selling mine.
      Thanks Noel!
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    Step 35

    Flying Jib Boom Horses.

    Double ,made as the jib boom horses and running from the outer end of the flying jib boom to tie again around the same spar just aft of its support on the jib boom end.
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    The B&W pictures are to help focus on the specific area that I am talking about, without all the other distractions such as color etc....
    This is a very time consuming enterprise that I have taken on but I hope to add some info each day before settling down to my own ongoing diorama projects for the Canada Aviation Museum.Luckily renovations there have been delayed which gives me the perfect opportunity to devote more time to this rigging booklet.
    Although my primary attention for the last ten years has been aircraft dioramas,I have loved old sailing ships since I was a child and I continue to research and study them.
    Cheers! John.
    Last edited by JohnReid; 12-28-09 at 09:13 AM.
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    delted by me
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    The first 35 steps are complete except for the belaying points of each rope.Somewhere down the road I plan to make a belaying point diagram for each step shown here.
    From now on each step will be completed as fully as possible before moving on to the next step.It is just too much of a hassle to come back and edit the information later.
    Anyone using my rigging plan would already have many months of work before them just to bring their ship to this stage.
    If everything goes as planned I am hoping to add about a step a day on average.
    Good luck! Cheers. John.
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    I have added the following to the first post as I only now realized that a beginner would want this important information before starting any rigging.

    Please note: the decision to use harbour,furled or full sail rig has to be made very early in the process .I plan to discuss some of the full sail rigging options later.
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    Step 36

    Bowsprit Horses (manwalk)

    one each side of 5" rope ,one end secured to the marine walk grating and the forward end ties off to the upper eyebolts of the sides of the bowsprit caps.(This is the only set of horses placed above and not below the spar.)They are used as handropes for men walking on the bowsprit.


    Long P227

    Hack P67
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    Step 37

    Flying Jib Stay

    3" rope from foretopgallant mast just above the shrouds ,tied off around the flying jib boom close to its outer end.

    Long P225

    Hack P67
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    Steps 38,39 and 40.

    Royal Backstays.

    Fore royal backstay -one each side 3" rope tied at the mast truck and leading to the aftermost eyebolts in the forechannels.

    Main royal backstay-as above except leading to the eyebolts of the main backstay stools.

    Mizzen royal backstays-as above except using a 2" rope ,leads to after eyebolts of the mizzen stools.

    Long P233
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    My 1:16th dioramas are now on permanent display at the Canada Aviaion and Space Museum,in Ottawa,Canada.The apprailals for the museum were done by Shep Paine who valued them at between $15,000 and $25,000 (US) each.
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    For Large Pictures see:

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    Step 41

    Main Royal Stay

    2" from truck of main royal mast to tie off around the fore royal mast above the foretopgallant shrouds.

    Long P224

    Hack P67
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    Step 42

    Mizzen Royal Stay

    2" rope from truck of mizzen royal mast to tie off around the head of main topmast just above the crosstrees.

    Long P224

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    My 1:16th dioramas are now on permanent display at the Canada Aviaion and Space Museum,in Ottawa,Canada.The apprailals for the museum were done by Shep Paine who valued them at between $15,000 and $25,000 (US) each.
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    For Large Pictures see:

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    My 1:16th dioramas are now on permanent display at the Canada Aviaion and Space Museum,in Ottawa,Canada.The apprailals for the museum were done by Shep Paine who valued them at between $15,000 and $25,000 (US) each.
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    Step 43

    Inner Martingale

    Long P227

    Hack P67

    4" rope tied to the jib traveler under the jib boom ,leads through the uppermost sheave in the dolphin striker.through the port side of the bowsprit collar and ends in a 9" single becket block.A 9" single block is tied to the port knighthead,and the two blocks are connected in a gin tackle by a 2" rope with its fall tied off around the knighthead.
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    My 1:16th dioramas are now on permanent display at the Canada Aviaion and Space Museum,in Ottawa,Canada.The apprailals for the museum were done by Shep Paine who valued them at between $15,000 and $25,000 (US) each.
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    Step 44

    Outer Martingale

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    4" rope from outer end of the jib boom,through the second highest sheave in the dolphin striker,through the starboard side of the bowsprit collar,ending in a 9" single becket block.A 9" single block is tied to the starboard knighthead and the blocks are connected as in step 43 above.
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    My 1:16th dioramas are now on permanent display at the Canada Aviaion and Space Museum,in Ottawa,Canada.The apprailals for the museum were done by Shep Paine who valued them at between $15,000 and $25,000 (US) each.
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