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      Re: HMS Victory
      In my opinion,HMS Victory,by Noel CL Hackney is the best by far as a guide to the step by step rigging of this ship and other English ships-of-the-line.It was written by a modeler for other modelers .I have all the other books on modeling Victory but this little book, that I paid $1.98 for new in a hobby store 35 years ago ,is the best.Unfortunately they now only come up on the secondary market and only occasionally and they want up to $150.00 bucks for it.There are only 7 libraries in the world that stock it and there was only one printing made in the English language in 1970,the others are in German.If anyone knows how to put a little pressure on the owners of the rights to this book,please do so. Mr Hackney was foremost a modeler and he went to a lot of effort to make sure this information was available to modelers.I am sure that he would be very unhappy today to see the price that modelers have to pay and to whom the money is going.I am sure that in his lifetime it wasn't him.
      Check it out on the web ISBN 0 85059 053 1.

      I personally used his book over a 30 year period when building my own Victory and I don't think that I would have finished it as easily or as accurately as I did without it.It is a real shame that it will not be available to future modelers.And no I am not selling mine.
      Thanks Noel!
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    Last edited by JohnReid; 12-10-09 at 06:21 PM.
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    Please note:
    There is one exception to what I said about rigging the ratlines and that is the area between the futtock stave and the deadeyes at the top.Due to reasons of accessibility the ratlines that run from the futtock stave to the masthead are best installed before the futtock shrouds.See:Longridge P229 Fig 157 and Plate 63.
    When climbing the shrouds to the top most sailors would use the ratlines attached to the futtock shrouds instead of going up the safer way through the "lubbers hole".( "landlubber")
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    Last edited by JohnReid; 12-10-09 at 06:57 PM.
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    Last edited by JohnReid; 12-10-09 at 07:37 PM.
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    Step 18

    Mizzen topmast standing backstay.

    Hack P64 Fig 11

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    One each side 4 1/2" rope leading to the forward eyebolt on the mizzen backstay stool.
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    Step 19

    Fore topmast shifting backstay

    Hack P64

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    One each side 7" rope with a 12" double block tied to the lower end.12" single becket block tied to the foremost of the two eyebolts in rear end of fore channels.The blocks are joined by a 3" rope in a luff tackle,the fall being tied back on the eyebolt.
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    Step 20

    Main topmast shifting backstay.

    Hack P65

    Long P231
    Same as fore backstay but the lower 12" blocks are tied to the main channel eyebolts between the ninth and tenth deadeyes.
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    Step 21

    Mizzen topmast shifting backstay.

    Hack P65

    Long P231-32
    Same as the fore and main but using a 4 1/2" rope for the backstay and 9" blocks with the lower single one tied to the single eyebolt on the aft end of the mizzen channel.The blocks are connected by 2 1/2" rope.
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    Step 22

    Foretopmast preventer stay

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    Tie one 12 " single block to the base of the port knighthead.Tie one end of a 6 1/2" rope around the foretopmast head.The lower end is led through the hole in the port bee.A single becket block is tied to its end.The two blocks are connected with a 3" rope in a gin-tackle,with the fall around the knighthead.

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    that you have to jump around from one page to the other when following Longridge,Hackney however is consistently step-by-step.This is the beauty of Hackney's book.
    Last edited by JohnReid; 12-24-09 at 08:57 AM.
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    Step 23

    Foretopmast stay

    Hack P65

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    Tie a 12" single block to the base of the starboard knighthead.Rig the stay as in step 22 but using a 8 1/2" rope.Lead it through the hole in the starboard bee and connect the blocks with a 3 1/2" rope,belaying the fall around the knighthead.
    Last edited by JohnReid; 12-24-09 at 09:17 AM.
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    My Reference Source for this thread is Hackney's book.
    He lists his reference sources as the following:
    Published
    The Anatomy of Nelson's Ships
    Longridge

    HMS Victory;Building ,Restoration and Repair
    Bugler

    Unpublished
    Admiralty rigging charts and deck diagram at Portsmouth Dockyard.

    Observation
    Detailed examination of HMS Victory in Trafalgar condition at Portsmouth Dockyard

    Discussions with
    The Captain and ship's company of HMS Victory
    The Master Rigger and his staff at Portsmouth Dockyard
    The Curator and staff of the Victory Museum
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    Last edited by JohnReid; 12-12-09 at 12:47 PM.
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