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      Not large scale (1/72) but here is a Victory diorama that I built a few years ago.
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    Quote Originally Posted by JohnReid View Post
    Not large scale (1/72) but here is a Victory diorama that I built a few years ago.
    Just WOW!!!!..............

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    John, that ship is incredible. That shows and abundance of talent and skill. The rigging is nothing short of masterful. First rate all the way.
    Sometimes a handful of patience is worth more than a truck load of brains. Have the courage to trust your own beliefs. Don't be swayed by those with louder voices. W.S. Maugham :)
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    God I wish I had your talent and patience. Absolutely stunning John. If my Sopwith Camel turns out half as nice, I'll be happy.........

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    My 1:16th dioramas are now on permanent display at the Canada Aviaion and Space Museum,in Ottawa,Canada.The apprailals for the museum were done by Shep Paine who valued them at between $15,000 and $25,000 (US) each.
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    There are a lot of models of HMS Victory around but I do not know of another that has been done as a storyboard diorama.What is a storyboard diorama? Simply it is a diorama that tells a story.It is a diorama whereby the story is the most important element.It can contain figures or not ,however my dioramas always contain figures.Victory is the first diorama that I had ever done and it didn't even start out that way.
    Back in 1976 ,when I started Victory,I had been back into modeling for only a couple of years after a long absence dating back to childhood.I passed a hobby shop window one day and saw a model of HMS Victory and fell in love.I was set to buy a kit right there but the shop owner wisely pointed me in the direction of something a little easier.After strong resistance on my part ,I left the shop with a Santa Maria kit feeling I was only wasting my time.However I did put my best effort into it and it turned out OK.( I still have it somewhere around here).
    The thing I remember most about this kit was making the top ,a basket like affair on the main mast.I got a little creative when making mine and to my surprise it was more than just a top but seemed to me quite artsy-fartsy for something I designed myself.This is the first time that I remember having stepped outside the box and I really liked it.The rest of the kit I build per the instructions but I always loved that little top.
    That creative spark really got me going but I was a trained aviator not a sailor so I hit the books.I bought a Bounty and built it out of the box and continued to study.It too turned out OK and I even got a little creative with the stern decorations.
    Well the big day arrived and I finally felt that I was ready to tackle the Victory. I arrived home with my Sergal kit ,opened it up and was immediately disappointed.The plans and instruction booklet was useless and written in engitalian which for the life of me I couldn't understand.I rushed back to the hobby store and immediately picked up a book that I had seen there "The Anatomy of Nelsons Ships".
    After reading it cover to cover and pouring over the plans I realized that what I had bought was nothing like I had seen in the window a few years previously. So it was back to the books and an even better nautical dictionary this time.
    I finally decided that I would use the wood strips and some of the brass fittings that were in scale from the kit and scratchbuild the rest which I thought at the time would probably take me a couple of years. Wrong!!!
    I decided to stay with the double plank-on-bulkhead method but I made my own plywood bulkheads using Longridges plans from the Anatomy of... book. More on this later.....

    What you see in the above picture is the finished storyboard diorama.It is a little unusual in that I have had to link up a usually unseen fanciful below the waterline, with a more realistic above the waterline type model.Usually when modeling storyboard dioramas you try to make everything as realistic as possible.As you can see from the picture the ship rests on a couple of dolphins I carved from cherrywood,which you would usually only see on admiralty type models.
    Speaking of admiralty models,I decided early on ,even before it became a storyboard diorama ,that this was to become a decorative type model that would appeal to kids and the young at heart.As a modeler I admire these models but I had noticed that in the museums or at exhibitions the models that told a story were really the most popular with the kids.I love to tell stories with my models and maybe also sneak in a little education for the kids as well.My Victory is really about depicting a sailors life aboard one of these magnificent ships,these ships that are at the end of a long evolution of just how big you can get just using only wood and rope.
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    For what it's worth John, I understood perfectly every syllable of your post....I doubt seriously I'll ever build another tall ship. If I did it would never see completion in what's left of my lifetime. Beautiful....you have the soul of an artist and poet.
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    What Don said, I could't say it better.
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    The last few pics give you guys an idea of the overall look of the ship.This is a decorative type model and not meant to be exactly like the real thing.I wanted it to have the wood/brass look rather than be painted.Why? I love the beauty of the lines of the ship (the run of the wales)and to paint it Nelson fashion with the lines parallel to the waterline only spoils the shipwrights original design.
    You will notice that some gunports actually cut through the wales at some points .I believe that here the shipwright was sacrificing a little strength for beauty.Why else would he do this?
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    My 1:16th dioramas are now on permanent display at the Canada Aviaion and Space Museum,in Ottawa,Canada.The apprailals for the museum were done by Shep Paine who valued them at between $15,000 and $25,000 (US) each.
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    Drumming Daybreak Storyline.
    The red coated Royal Marine is actually holding a drum.He has just finished being part of the dawn "drumming daybreak" ceremony.In the Royal Navy a drummer at first daybreak would start drumming and continue his drumming until as the saying goes "you could see a gray goose at a mile."Immediately after stopping the drumming a cannon would be fired and the royal ensign raised and the stern.
    The diorama itself is named for this ceremony.
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    My 1:16th dioramas are now on permanent display at the Canada Aviaion and Space Museum,in Ottawa,Canada.The apprailals for the museum were done by Shep Paine who valued them at between $15,000 and $25,000 (US) each.
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    The answer to your question about why the gunport cuts through the wale is because the gunports run parallel to the decks, and not to the hull planking.

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    Yes, I know that but the question is, why don't the wales run parallel to the decks instead of sweeping into a gentle curve?
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    My 1:16th dioramas are now on permanent display at the Canada Aviaion and Space Museum,in Ottawa,Canada.The apprailals for the museum were done by Shep Paine who valued them at between $15,000 and $25,000 (US) each.
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