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      I have the carburetor blown 426 on order. Researched many photos but need some information.

      1. None of the photos show a fan so I guess anybody putting one of these in a deuce had a pretty good water pump?

      2. None showed the installation of an alternator so are these engines only for dragsters running on battery? The TDR TDR Blown Hemi 426 CAD picture shows the alternator not mounted but laying beside the engine? Will there be interference between the alternator and the blower drive?

      3. Will I have to buy a dragster kit to mount this beast??


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  1. johnlord's Avatar Active Member
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    That would look nice with some very small scale screen material at the scoop opening.

    Not sure if they typically ran them like that or not but I had a screen mesh in my finned air scoop.
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    Detailing and test positioning shows that the blowoff springs (or whatever they are holding the front plate on the blower) will miss the distributor but interfere with the coil. (All the ref pics I found did not show a coil in the stock position anyway.) In the TDR TDR Blown Hemi 426 catalog Tim mounted the coil about where the alternator usually goes.) When I get the alternator and can check to see if it can be conveniently mounted I may have to find a different coil home. It might wind up where the power steering went if I can't hook that up. Don't want to proceed too far until I can test placement of all the parts.

    By the way, SMC store has pewter bolts that worked well for the blowoff bolts. Hand wound the spring with soft wire.


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    I have been building this model as 3 separate models (for the price of one!): Munsie 4 Speed, Blower, Crate Engine although it will be displayed finally as a blown 426 in the IFS/IRS chassis. Anyway I just realized the Muncie bell housing was open compared to the closed housing on the automatic tranny. Felt it should have a splash plate to keep out mud and roadkill.


    Image 1 shows how the bell housing would look open. Not many models will sit in this position so maybe anybody else would not care.

    Image 2 shows addition of a 1/32" styrene TDR Blown Hemi 426 plate. It would be well to sand TDR Blown Hemi 426 the pan ends about 1/64" each and move the pan forward slightly. The pan just fits on the block. I had to notch the plate to go over the pan as I had not looked this far ahead.

    Image 3 shows how the closed bell housing looks.


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    Maybe something of interest to those building TDR TDR Blown Hemi 426 models. I found that using "Quake Hold" putty TDR Blown Hemi 426 works better than 2 sided sticky tape to temporarily hold TDR TDR Blown Hemi 426 parts together. I was trying to figure out when to start major assembly while adjusting accessory parts to fit. I had used 2 sided tape to hold the parts while letting the model sit as a crate engine but the tape had very little binding characteristic. Today I wanted to start laying out possible fuel line locations but did not want to glue the fuel pump on because I tend to knock it and the oil filter off regularly. The putty TDR Blown Hemi 426 held very well while fiddling with bending the fuel line.

    Image 1 shows the putty TDR Blown Hemi 426 package; image 2 shows the crate engine barely held together with 2 sided tape. Next comes the plug wires then determining if the alternator can sit normally with minor blower pulley adjustments.


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    Wish I had thought of Quake putty TDR Blown Hemi 426 before. All the pulleys and fuel pump are now held in place with it. This will be a lot of help in seeing where there will be clearance problems when I try mounting the alternator and maybe even power steering. The blower drive shaft seems to be designed precluding use of the alternator in the stock position and precludes a water pump pulley. Of course it would have been easy to scratch up an electric drive for the water pump but if I can mount the alternator they will be belt driven. The bottom pulley seems to want to mount directly to the harmonic balancer which then lines up with the blower shaft pulley. I have a 1/4" spacer between the blower drive shaft pulley and shaft now just to see how far out I can push the pulley without the extension being seen. It would allow mounting the three stage pulley between the balancer and the bottom pulley if need be to handle accessories.

    Still don't know where the coil will wind up.


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    That's a great idea, Syd. Where can I get ahold of that product or something like it? I tried the 2 sided tape also and was very disappointed as you were. Not only that but the tape left a residue that had to be peeled off.

    I'm not sure but can the coil be anchored just about anywhere on the block you can get a bolt into? I can see exactly what your problem is with space for it. I saw a picture where a coil on a flathead was anchored onto a head. Great job on the fuel line, BTW.
    Sometimes a handful of patience is worth more than a truck load of brains. Have the courage to trust your own beliefs. Don't be swayed by those with louder voices. W.S. Maugham :)
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    I think you can buy the putty TDR Blown Hemi 426 at any hardware store.


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    Quake Putty TDR Blown Hemi 426 ..............who would have thought....................

    I have found that Elmer's rubber cement works really well..........apply to both surfaces, allow to air-dry a bit, and then put the pieces together...........and then when you are ready to take it apart, the dried rubber rolls right off the surfaces, and it's good as new...............

    Quake Putty TDR Blown Hemi 426 ............too cool................

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    Quake putty TDR Blown Hemi 426 is cool stuff. I have an uncle that lives in L.A. near Hollywood. He's been using that stuff for years. He said everybody in his neighborhood uses that stuff to hold all their nick nacks from falling each time there's a shaker. It's saved him a lot of money in china replacement.
    Sometimes a handful of patience is worth more than a truck load of brains. Have the courage to trust your own beliefs. Don't be swayed by those with louder voices. W.S. Maugham :)
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    The TDR TDR Blown Hemi 426 blown Hemi 426 was probably designed to be used strictly for racing with an electric water pump and possibly a magneto but if the blower shaft housing could be extended 3/8 all the stock jewelry (alternator, water pump pulley and power steering pump) could be incorporated. It is much easier to cut a longer shaft short than to add on.

    I am going to try to work the jewelry in. Image 1 is the TDR TDR Blown Hemi 426 catalog blower mounted. Image 2 shows the upfront jewelry in place on a non-blown engine. Images 3 and 4 show the jewelry just laid in place on my 426 with the front blower drive pulley extended 3/8. By installing the alternator and the water pump pulley first they can be aligned to the second place on the drive shaft pulley. Then the power steering pump can be installed and lined up with the outside place on the drive shaft pulley. It would be nice if the power steering pump could be pushed back to grab the first inner place on the drive shaft pulley but I could not see how. That would have reduced the required extension by one pulley width.

    Another advantage to this layout is the stock water inlet can be used and the coil can stay in the stock position.

    More clever modelers can design engine mounts for the alternator and either do away with the power steering pump or mount it elsewhere. I hope to run power steering lines down to the rack and pinion steering so I wanted the power steering.

    Images 5 and 6 show existing blower assemblies with an extended shaft as practical.


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    Everything lines up so long as you add a 3/8" extension to the blower shaft housing (hint hint TDR TDR Blown Hemi 426 !) The only thing not in the stock position is the coil. I had to bring it forward on a scratch bracket because of the pressure plate bolts on the blower.

    Sometimes I need to take pictures to see what is wrong or where more or less detail needs work. Here I used masking TDR Blown Hemi 426 tape to to insure the pulleys lined up. I may try to make belts from electrical tape. Motor mounts will be a stumbling block later. EDIT: Just noted I did not move the blower belt idler arm far enough out to allow easy water hose positioning and the power steering return hose should be to the reservoir not the pump.




    The little stubs on the power steering assembly is where the hoses will start on their way to the rack and pinion steering.



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    Lookin' good Syd!
    -Steve
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    WOW!!!

    That is one heck of a mill Syd.

    Nice job getting the alt. and PS pump worked in there.
    Beware the lollipop of mediocrity, lick it once and you will suck forever.....!!!
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    Why is it that when I take pictures of the finished model I always see something I forgot. NO DIPSTICK. Oh well, I will add it shortly.










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    Syd, thats one of the nicest engine builds I've ever seen. Well done and thanks for shareing it with us.
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