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'32 Phaeton body
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    1. Kit: , by (VIP/Sponsor) whodaky is offline
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      As I mentioned in my thread 'Someone Else cutting Up A 3 Window' I said that I had also purchased one of Dan's phaeton's which was also a second's body. It is missing material above the belt line around the tub section!
      I read with interest recently on the evaluation of this new body. Having recieved my body I could now make an evaluation first hand.
      Firstly it was stated that the body wouldn't fit over the Big Duece chassis, my body was the same! In the comments on the evaluation the solution discussed was that the crossmembers of the chassis could be narrowed ( this in my view could cause problems for fitting running boards to a full fendered build! ) to allow the body to fit over the chassis. Well as soon as I saw the body I knew what needed to be done. The body itself had to be widened to fit over the chassis. In the body as recieved when you look down the side of the body along the belt line, there is not enough curve in it, actually it is quite straight compared to what it should be. The solution I came up with was to make a relief cut where the floor pan meets the body sides, then with the heat gun I heat the body side and gradually manipulate the body side to get the required shape and curve to follow the chassis. Doing this in fact widens the body enough to fit over the chassis. I continually checked the fit of the body over the chassis as I went.
      Unfortunately I didn't take a shot looking down the side of the body before I started reshaping. The third image shows the constant curved along the side of the body when i was finished!
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    Another area of concern for me was the shape of the rear of the body ( the tub section). When Don posted images of the body I sort of thought the shape of the tub section may not be quite right. But at the time I thought it may have just been the angle of the image. When I got the body I knew I would be doing some serious reworking of the tub section to get it into the right shape. To me and from reference photos the back of the body has the wrong curve in both the horizontal and vertical planes, as well as the corners of the tub section having to tight of a radius. All stuff I knew I could fix.
    Firstly I wanted to get more curve across the back of the tub section. To do this I made a relief cut, as seen in the image below ( this is looking from the underside of the body ). Then again with the heat gun I heated the tub section and manipulated the back of the body to get a better curve across it in the horizontal plane.
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    Next I wanted to address the curve of the tub section in the vertical plane. To do this I made a pie cut '32 Phaeton body in each corner of the tub section, the widest point from the top going down to within around 1/2" of the bottom of the body. Again with the trusty heat gun I heated and manipulated the back of the body to get it into the shape I was after. This shape also meant the top section in this area would go forward slightly. At this time I also heated the sides of the body in the pie cut '32 Phaeton body area to bring them in slightly. The 2 images below are after it is all glued back together. I have also added material on the inside of the body as it will greatly strengthen this area for the next alteration I would be doing!
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    Now that I have the tub section all securely stuck back together I was now going to recontour the corners of the tub section. This is basically done by some serious sanding '32 Phaeton body and filing to get these areas into the shape they should be.
    The first image below shows what I started with before my 'recontouring' and the second image shows the right side with recontouring in progress. It is starting to take on the shape that this area should have.
    Also at this stage I haven't added material to the upper section of the tub section, that is the material missing from when the body was molded and what made it a 'seconds'
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    It was also mentioned in the evaluation of the phaeton body, that there is problems with the mounting area for the rear fenders. At this stage I am not sure if I will be doing this as a hiboy or a full fendered hot '32 Phaeton body rod. So I will address the fender thing as the need arises.
    I would also like to say that I think it is great that Dan has done this body. The changes that I have done aren't totally necessary for everyone one. These phaeton bodies as supplied will build into a great looking model.
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    OK, OK, OK !!!! The Phaeton needs some love....

    No really, it looks like a rework is in order. Whodaky check your PM and get back to me. Lets see if we can work these defects out with a new master or something.
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    OK guys, lets not consider Geoff's comments as a criticism of Dan's Phaeton. He bought a body that he knew wasn't correct and he's done a GREAT tutorial on how to make it right.
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    I welcome the remarks. This is what makes SMC a great site you can trust. Honest feedback and I wouldn't have it any other way. Lets just see if we can iron out these kinks and move on to the next big project.
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    You guys are getting off track a bit and I would hate to see Geoff's tutorial get all confused.......Dan knows the body needs tweaking and a few adjustments, we're all just modelers learning as we go.
    As Geoff pointed out....it's a tub and just peachy keen for some, others figure it needs a bit of knockin' around before it "looks" right.
    How 'bout a little info on what fillers '32 Phaeton body etc. you use when you're working with resin '32 Phaeton body , Geoff.
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    Thanks for the info Geoff. What ever info you have to make our stuff even better is always welcome.
    Sometimes a handful of patience is worth more than a truck load of brains. Have the courage to trust your own beliefs. Don't be swayed by those with louder voices. W.S. Maugham :)
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    I need to think more about if it was right to start this post on the phaeton.
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    Right? Of course it's right.
    It's what Model building is all about. I don't think there are very many (if any) perfect kits or bodies out there. A brand new R/M Deuce has issues when get right down to it.
    Dan's roadster has some things that each of us would change to suit ourselves...so Geoff, please just "call 'em like you see 'em", and continue posting your build. Lots of great tips and techniques are added to every one's own bag of tricks through these step by step builds.
    Dan gathers our input to improve his product line through threads like this....I see no criticising in this thread, just facts and very descriptive photos leading up to what is going to be a fantastic looking Phaeton...keep 'em coming.
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