Trumpeter now have the 1/12 GT40 listed on there website.
www.trumpeter-china.com/war513/products/en_message.asp?id=718#
From the look of the pictures they have included it looks like it will be one of the all time great 1/12 kits. I hope its gets into the shops soon.
TRUMPETER 1/12 FORD GT40 Mk. II #5403 NIB - eBay (item 250455041010 end time Jul-02-09 11:00:17 PDT)
Check out the pictures from this ebay listing. Looks pretty detailed, but I think I will wait a few more months as I am sure someone will produce a photo etch detailing set for the kit.
Mouppe.
More on that kit here:
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Uli
They didn't seem to like the kit on that other forum. They called it toylike and short on details. They also said it was like a Pocher kit. The big question I guess is what does it take to get the final product looking right? I know Pocher kits can be a little miserable at times but I've also seen what can be done with them. A lot of times I don't pay too much attention to kit reviews unless things are grossly out of scale, parts are distorted or missing or the materials are defective. This Cord kit I'm working on has poor detail on a lot of parts, the chrome isn't the best, parts are not shaped exactly right, the molding is a bit weird and rough on a good number of parts and there are some fit problems. With a little bit of work, it sure does come out really nice and it's the only one available in its size. I'm not going to be too quick to trash the kit until I get into it and discover how many problems it has.
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Jeff, you kind of danced with that reply, I guess it's the gentleman in you. No two people view kits the same or have the same criteria or tastes. Critics in my mind are just that. I stopped entering any of my stuff in model shows long ago. I had entered a 1/25th '65 Mustang AMTkit, honestly it was nothing special...pretty much a box stock
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After I reread my last reply a few times, I think I can see where I may have given the impression I was dancing around the subject. After I talked about the Cord kit being what it was, the kit I didn't want to trash was not the Cord kit but the new GT40 kit. For me to trash a kit, the thing has got to be really really bad like I mentioned in the first post. Since it wasn't our forum guys that were trashing the kit, I just didn't feel any need to jump down anyone's throat. There was a huge discussion on Large Scale Planes when some reviewer totally verbally destroyed a kit. I got pretty vocal on that thread. The good thing is that I really haven't seen much kit trashing on SMC. The most I've heard here was how tough a kit was and all of it's imperfection followed by the builder's list of how he corrected all the defects and what materials and techniques were used. The picture showed an incredible finished product.
My take on the subject of "lousy kits" is a pretty strong one. In my mind, the only reason I'll totally trash a kit is if 1) the parts are so out of scale to each other that the finished model in no way resembles or in no way can be made into what it's supposed to be. 2) a kit is so poorly designed that any correction is impossible. 3) major parts are missing or many major parts are distorted beyond correction. For every other situation, that's what hobby tools and extra styrene
There used to be an advertisement for a Life Insurance Company showing a happy family sitting around the dining room table - you know the type, impossibly good looking couple with two impossibly angelic children. The family are presumably congratulating Dad who is building a K88 Pocher F2 Fiat. This simplistic view of model building always used to amuse me but it is evident from some of the built models that now appear on ebay etc that people actually do sit down with a kit and build it right out of the box.
It must present a dilemma to kit manufacturers as to how much 'modelling' they should build into their kits to make them acceptable to both the real enthusiasts (like us) and also someone who doesn't want to go to extremes but still wants, to them, an acceptable result.
It seems a little unfair therefore, as on that other forum, to be criticising a kit for having chrome and some ready painted or coloured parts. It would seem to me far more important that the thing fits together properly and is a fair representation of the real subject.
Martin
The last two sentences you wrote, Martin is exactly what I'm talking about. It's not even the beginners that ever torque me off anyhow. Those that join forums like ours usually ask for as much help as possible. It's the so called "expert" modeler that tries to show he knows something about modeling in a not so good way. That's the guy who starts a review by saying something like "I looked in the kit and all I saw was garbage. I packed up the kit and threw it away". That's exactly what I saw on an aircraft site with a particular kit brand. Another reviewer that built the same kit did it exactly right. He wasn't unkind at all. He very carefully pointed out the kit's flaws and then proceeded to write a tutorial for the more discerning builders on how to correct all of the problems IF they wished to do so. He also pointed out that even if the flaws went uncorrected, building the kit box stock
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