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  1. MODEL A MODEL's Avatar Yearly Subscriber
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    A few more recent photographs of the Model A commissioned by FoMoCo, to celebrate their 75 anniversary, and offered for sale.

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    In my opinion, silver is too soft. And not available in sheets like brass (but maybe I'm wrong here!).
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    Hi Roger
    You can buy silver in sheet form - here's what's available from a NZ supplier
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    All in sheets up to 500mm x 1000mm (!)

    Recently there has been a MkII Rally Escort made in silver, platinum and gold by Russell Lord



    - he's now making a MkI Escort...
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    Hello Jo and Roger, and everybody else,

    I do not think silver is THE choice for model making, Brass, Copper, and Aluminum, and now I'm adding Nickel-Silver, are much better choices. Silver is actually better than Copper for forming, but it is more expensive, and on its own, tarnishes. There is Argentium, an alloy than doesn't tarnish? Price?

    What I was suggesting was that if someone wanted to work from scratch and find a market for such work, working in silver, maybe a parallel project, and then selling off the Silver model might be a way? Ironically the "Brass" model is what we (the modelers) would be more interested in anyway, and the proposed "Silver" model would be a necessary evil.

    Just a thought at the end of the year! - Like any of us make two of the same model while we're working? But if there was an incentive? maybe we would?

    PS- Silver is available in several alloys, of various hardness. It is available in maybe more shapes and thicknesses than Brass? And there are a whole lot of schools and general classes for instruction, with more books on its use than for any other metal. -Is Silver Soldering actually considered welding? or "Brazing"? when its applied to silver work?

    Following strict guidelines, and being extra careful to assembly, the finished model could be Hallmarked?



    PS- I did just dig up my Rio Grande catalog, and confirmed the variety of sheet and shapes for STERLING silver, which is a standardized alloy, and yes it is available in many thicknesses and shapes, and is what "Good" silverware is made of. Anything that is expected to hold up to actual use. FINE SILVER is available in sheet and wire form, but not to the same level, and ARGENTIUM is a relatively new alloy, that is gaining acceptance, and has the advantages of no tarnishing, and being heat treatable. All are available as casting PAST MASTERS and PIONEERS grain, but bar stock, like what you would use in a lathe is where you would have to seek out a metal specialist.

    Another benefit to using Silver, Sterling Silver, or Argentium, is the option to sell back your scraps. Yes, some suppliers will buy back your scrap!

    As I mentioned to Markus, last week I have ordered some nickel-silver to play with this week, and I was able to find bar stock up to an inch, round, and 3/4" square, plus several thicknesses of sheet. Nickel-Silver contains no silver, and really should be called Nickel-Brass, its composition is usually given as 60% Copper, 20% Nickel and 20% Zinc, I have purchased Nickel 752, from a knifemaking supplier.
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    I think the only real advantage with silver is that it almost becomes homogeneous when soldered (i.e. you can't see the join) - so it can be polished
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    www.caradvice.com.au/681295

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    Returning to my thread on Past Masters, specifically Michele Conti, I was pleasantly surprised by an article penned by Griffith Borgeson, in AUTOCAR, of June 26, 1969 With a few new to me insights into Michele Conti.
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    Reading through the article, we are told that he was twelve when the allies occupied Turin, he was fascinated with the American Jeeps, and it was one of those that was his first scratch-build, made in wood. He did work at Carrozzeria Pininfarina for several years, and while there he learned to work in wood, clay and metal. His usual method in building his models was to create a "hard-wood" body shape, forming brass, and using silver solder to assemble the final body shell. And he would use Silver to create some of his cast rims, rather than Aluminum. (?)

    He was on occasion, given factory blue-prints to work from, but in many cases he drove around a lot, taking lots of photographs, and lots of measurements.

    The Alfa 1750 and the Jaguar XK150 were made in either 1/11th or 1/12th scales. (the article states both contradictions!) -the Jaguar was made from factory supplied drawings.
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    WOW! Hello Don! It is very cool. Can you scan this material? Thanks!
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    Hello Evgeniy,

    Happy New Year! What can I do for you?
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    Forever searching for new bits and pieces, . . . a video of an interview with Sr. Conti.
    I hope you enjoy!

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    Thanks for that, inspiring!
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    A video for your entertainment, a behind the scenes look of the work at Art Collection Auto.

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    My ambitions to try (yes, try) to build a model from scratch came about because I discovered the work of Mr. Peré Tarragó. I am lucky to have contact with him, he is a very kind person.Later I learned that his teacher was Mr. Manuel Olivé Sanz, who has done a truly incredible job.Here a documentary NO-DO still in black and white:

    Imagine building a car at that time, without internet, with limited access to information, with limited access to materials, and with tools that few could have in a workshop. For me, more than an artisan, he is a great artist.
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