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  1. Bugatti Fan's Avatar Active Member
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    Some time ago when he retired, Gerald Wingrove sold off in entirety his plans and information service to someone in the USA who was going to carry on running the service. Apparently that person is rumoured to have fallen ill soon after. Someone , somewhere must know the whereabouts of the entire collection of Gerald Wingrove's files or maybe who it was who bought them. They just dropped off the radar shortly after they were sold, so must be languishing somewhere.
    The Model Cars Museum's site says that the plans are available through a site named Wincol. It was Gerald Wingrove's old personal site that has been defunct for some time now since he retired.
    Maybe some Scalemotorcars forum viewers might like to have a go at some detective work to track them down???

    Incidentally whilst talking about plans.....There was a series of car plans by MAP (Model and Allied Publications) issued way back in the 1960's. There is a company in the UK named Traplet Publications Ltd who hold these copies and the good news is that all of these old plans are available from them. By and large they are kerbside drawings, so look in the engineering part of their website to see the listings.
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    Are you sure Gerald's own website is not updated anymore? I usually check it every month and seems there is always new content there. Check it on http://www.wworkshop.net/Home_Page_/Home_Page.html
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    Hi Dan,
    Your post was brought to my attention by SMC staff. This reply is to clarify what my original post was all about.
    Agreed, Gerald Wingrove's Workshop sites are up and running and I also refer to them from time to time for inspiration.
    The Wincol.com website that I was referring to was an old site of his that he used for selling his plans and information when living here in the UK.
    I found out that it was in operation up until he retired to Spain a few years ago when he sold off the plans service to someone in the USA.
    The plans service seemed to have died a death soon after being sold on by Mr. Wingrove.
    The Model Car Museum in Salt Lake City refers to the Wincol.com website as a source for obtaining Gerald and Phyllis Wingrove's car plan sets.
    Either they do not know that Wincol.com is defunct or simply have not got around to amending the information on their website.
    I contacted Gerald Wingrove a short while ago to find out who was now running the service. He informed me that the person who he sold that part of the business to was taken ill shortly after the acquisition. He tried to contact that person a few times since to find out what was going on, but I understand that through lack of replies could not find out anything. I tried to get a name and contact details so I could contact the buyer myself from Gerald, but he sounded reluctant, so I did not press him any further with this.
    Gerald is in his early eighties and thoroughly enjoying his retirement in Spain. He still maintains a model making workshop and he tells me that he spends about 5 or 6 hours a day working now on projects of personal interest.
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    Hi Bugatti Fan,

    I was able to purchase a set of Bugatti Atlantic plans from Gerald aprox 17 years ago. I am one day planning to build a 1/8 replica but I need somebody to fabricate a body (3D printing perhaps).

    I too would be interested in knowing what happened to the person who purchased the rights to these plans.

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    John
    Have a look for a guy named John Horrocks (I think) who has made a 1/8th scale Austin 7 by 3D printing methods.
    Otherwise a trawl on the internet should find some professionals who are specialists in this type of manufacture.
    Could be a bit costly though as 3D printing requires a 3D CAD file that has to be down loaded to the machine and has to be drawn up first.
    You will need access to a 3D CAD program such as Solid Works. Pro Engineer, Rhino, Solid Edge or Autodesk Inventor but any of these will be prohibitive in price to buy, plus the added learning curve to get proficient. There is a company named RS Components who have a 3D Cad Program that can be downloaded free of charge. I think it might be named 3D Spark Mechanical or something similar. Should be easy to locate on their website. As far as I am aware it is a fully functional 3D Cad program.
    Hope this helps
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    Is it possible the person that bought the Wingrove documents was Stephen Pombo?

    I bought some Alfa 8C2300 documentation from him back in 2006 that has "Copyright Wingrove Collection" on it.

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    Hi Ron
    Thanks for the heads up re the Wingrove plans. Were the ones you bought from Pombo of good quality?
    Is he still running the service do you know?
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    i bought 3 items:
    Two softcover booklets with photos. most photos were B/W 3.5" x 5". I believe they were printed on a high quality laser printer. all are still qite legible today.
    The third is a set of drawings plotted in 1/8 scale. They are signed Phyllis and G A Wingrove, but copyrighted Stephen Pombo. I think these wer some of the drawings he made in constructing his 2300.

    I must correct myself. In the previos post I said the documents said "Copyright Wingrove Collection", they are "Copyright 2006 Stephen Pombo".

    He has a website PomboWorks.com, however it appears to be unsupported. One page says the site is being redesigned in 2009. The link to documentation is no longer active.

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    Not being happy contemplating what may have been lost to us, I have been reflecting on where/when it started for me. The posted image is of the magazine I came across thirty-seven years ago! From that one magazine article introducing Mr. Wingrove, to now, its been a passion for model making.

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    I've just returned from visiting Mr. Wingrove's website, for the zillionth time, and viewing the video he created, "Is It Real?" - I know he made it quite a while ago, but watching it, and hearing him talk about the model 2900 Alfas, well its like visiting a favorite teacher. -I do recommend it! -Don
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    Link would be nice
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    As of July 10th, 2018, there are several of the genuine WinCol, portfolios on ebay. Duesenberg, Alfa Romeos, and one on the Bugatti Royale.



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    A link would be fine
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    www.ebay.com

    Gerald A. Wingrove portfolio





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    -craftsmanship is a lifelong project of
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