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        I used to work with some nice people who owned a model shop (Grand Prix Models) that sold Pocher kits. In the 1980s I built the Rolls Torpedo Cabriolet and the first Bugatti T50 as display models (where are they now?) and an Alfa Muletto for a customer. The Alfa was far and away the worst of the three - not surprisingly, as the kit was probably 20 years older than the Bugatti. I alway wanted to build a Pocher for myself, but have only recently got around to it, so I bought - you guessed it - The Alfa! I love the shape, and it's far enough away now to forget trying to wrestle the firewall into the chassis using all three hands.
        I discovered this forum while I was looking for an Alfa kit, and have taken on board the trials, tribulations and modifications made by all on the forum - with particular thanks to Dougritt, his thread really got me moving on the Alfa.

        Basic starting point - I wanted to build one in Burgundy red with swept front wings but the Monza tail. This was (still is?) the target:

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        Of course it will probably change through the build....

        PS When selling the Pocher kits, we [I]always[/I] got asked what tools were needed to build it. The stock answer was - a small screwdriver - and a good Psychiatrist....


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    1. Jo NZ
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      The bonnet open...

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      And as a distraction, the spare wheel straps. The ring is silver wire (it avoids me having to plate it!)

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      After looking everywhere for thin leather, I tried normal (jacket thickness) leather and skived it back to the skin. Looks ok, and stretching it loses the heavy grain.


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      The bell housing air inlet - the scoop on top of the left side bonnet...

      first make a cone from copper. It's annealed and beaten (rubber hammer) over an old dead centre from a big lathe. I wrapped it around until it overlapped, then cut through both layers to get a neat joint for silver soldering

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      After soldering

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      Flattened, with a piece of rod soldered in the back to block up the hole, and provide a handle

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      It's too wide! The angle on the dead centre is 60°, so I turned up a 40° mandrel and started again. You can see the overlap

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      And soldered

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      Here are both together for comparison. I've also soldered a rod to the bottom of the narrower one that replicates the tube through the bonnet

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      Fitted:

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      And the tube it connects to. I thought that the scoop looked too far back on the bonnet, but it has to join this tube, and that's fixed to the firewall

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      At the moment the Alfa is mostly assembled and maturing quietly in it's case. Here's where it's at

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      Looks great! I'm guessing the frame color will be your chice for the body - correct? Will the wheels remain black or will they too match the body? I seem to recall some of the Wingrove models of the same car had the same color on the wheels as on the body. Excited to see this one coming closer to being finished.
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      This one's going to be a homage to the Nuvolari Targa Florio car - It's built as period as I can get it but the details come from modern day racers. And yes, it will be blood red!


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      Looks great. It is always interesting to see different solutions.
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      Hi , very nice model. You work perfectly ! I am making the same model , its my first pocher. I have a question please : where can i find litle screws with holes to pass metal thrill on the body. I saw you made holes to put these pierced screws. Thank you.
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      Hi Andecha
      Thanks for the compliment!

      The bolts with locking wire are from Model Motor Cars. If you go there have your wallet ready.... you'll want to buy heaps!

      Incidentally I used a thinner Pocher 1/8 Alfa Monza revisited wire than supplied by MMC - I stripped it from electrical cable.


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      where did you get those medal springs?
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      where did you get those medal springs?
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      The metal (stainless steel) springs are from Model Motorcars Pocher 1/8 Alfa Monza revisited


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      I see, I didn't look ahead, great job, I think this model is going to be heavier than the kit!
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      Superb craft on display! Did you fabricate the steering box from scratch?
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      Quote Originally Posted by Obsessed View Post
      Superb craft on display! Did you fabricate the steering box from scratch?
      The outer cover plate of the steering box is machined (the one with all the holes), and the front bearing housing is fabricated. The rest of it is an aftermarket metal casting Pocher 1/8 Alfa Monza revisited .
      I made the cover plate before I had a rotary table, or even a selection of dividing plates, so it has 16 holes not 15. Hopefully no-one will notice....


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      check out doll clothes and native american little stuff, drums, wind catchers, lots of their dolls use thin leather?
      03-01-18, 07:40 AM QUOTE QUOTE #136
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