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    1. Kit: Pocher, by (Yearly Subscriber) Jo NZ is online now
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      I used to work with some nice people who owned a model shop (Grand Prix Models) that sold Pocher kits. In the 1980s I built the Rolls Torpedo Cabriolet and the first Bugatti T50 as display models (where are they now?) and an Alfa Muletto for a customer. The Alfa was far and away the worst of the three - not surprisingly, as the kit was probably 20 years older than the Bugatti. I alway wanted to build a Pocher for myself, but have only recently got around to it, so I bought - you guessed it - The Alfa! I love the shape, and it's far enough away now to forget trying to wrestle the firewall into the chassis using all three hands.
      I discovered this forum while I was looking for an Alfa kit, and have taken on board the trials, tribulations and modifications made by all on the forum - with particular thanks to Dougritt, his thread really got me moving on the Alfa.

      Basic starting point - I wanted to build one in Burgundy red with swept front wings but the Monza tail. This was (still is?) the target:

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      Of course it will probably change through the build....

      PS When selling the Pocher kits, we [I]always[/I] got asked what tools were needed to build it. The stock answer was - a small screwdriver - and a good Psychiatrist....


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    I extended the top of the front chassis as I had a gap on either side between the chassis and the radiator shroud ( The additions are still to be sanded flat and filed back to fit the width of the radiator). I used scrap plastic from the wheel jigs, fixed with cyanoacrylate Pocher 1/8 Alfa Monza revisited .

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    The dashboard has been remade to correct the insrument positions - three of the large instruments are in the centre of the dash in the majority of Monzas, not two and a small one. The bracket for the steering column is cut from square section brass tube.

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    To make the column clamp, I made a filing jig from two pieces of steel bar turned to the finished diameter

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    And also made the "Pie Plate" tachometer that clamps to the column

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    The clamp and the tacho assembled

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    The starter button in the centre instrument position is quite prominent. The button is brass, the surround is shaped by cutting with a tube cutter - it gives a rounded profile to the end of the tube

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    The paint is temporary, to see how it would look! The centre boss is turned shorter - and left as brass - to represent the keyhole better


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    Together for a change....

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    Solid build
    Machining, lathe and silver soldering...all top notch skills
    keep posting, I am taking notes for when I build mine
    Cheers, Scott
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    Thanks Scott, I'll keep posting!

    There is a pump on the left hand side of the dashboard (for fuel pressure?). It looks like this...

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    The boss is turned, the handle soldered and filed

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    The raw material: the centre of a domestic tap, and brass tile trim. I also used brass rod, but I had to buy that...

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    The finished pump (it will be nickel plated Pocher 1/8 Alfa Monza revisited before final assembly)

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    In case you have not seen Jay Leno's Alfa Romeo, here is a video for fun!
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    Thanks Scott, I watched the video. Now I want a Pur Sang Monza!

    On with the spare wheel cradle...It looks like this

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    Cut out

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    Bent and fitted

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    The loops for the leather straps

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    And some of the attempts! The rest were sacrificed to the great carpet god

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    Glad you enjoyed that video..Leno has a few really good ones on cars you never see
    You are just casually whipping up a piece of brass art here.
    Parts don't seem to just cut out of brass sheets for me like they do for you; mine look like a five year old had their way them using a hammer and blade
    Very clean and precise work my friend, really well done
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    It's taken me a very long time to stop being completely fumble-fingered. To improve my scratch building skills I went to jewellery classes, initially to learn to silver solder. It teaches so much else as well, including the fact that brass is harder to silver solder than silver or copper! Probably the most useful tool I have is a jewellers fretsaw (using 2/0 blades) and bench pin. Not expensive (the bench pin is scrap pine) but invaluable. - Oh and the saw blades break a lot, but at about $4 a dozen I can afford that!


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    Wow, very interesting Details. I like your Alfa. Regards Markus
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    Thanks Marcus!

    The saw and bench pin, if anyone isn't sure what they are

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    And the wheel cradle. I started using .020" wire for the loops but after soft soldering - which wasn't strong enough; and then silver soldering - which annealed the wire so soft it wasn't strong enough to hold the strap - I ended up using .030" wire. There are some gaps to fill but I'll leave this to final finishing. I've done this enough times for now..... time to move on to something else

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    I am going to try the fretsaw for sure...using razor saws Pocher 1/8 Alfa Monza revisited which are ok for straight cuts, but not curves.
    Need to use my woodworking brain...I have different saws for different needs
    Great tips, thanks
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    I hardly use modelling saws at all now. The trick with the fretsaw is to turn the work to follow a profile, not turn the saw. And saw straight up and down, blades pointing down.

    The handbrake: I decided not to go over the top and add the locking clamp, but an important feature is the tapered shaft. I used 2mm brass rod, annealed and progressively hammered to form the taper. The handle is aluminium, with the top formed by hand on the lathe with a file. The black grip is 2.5mm shrink sleeve. I'll nickel plate the shaft later on.


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    I also started on the gearlever. The knob is aluminium, I have a crude ball turning attachment which will turn about 3/4 of the sphere - but not enough! I finally drilled and tapped the ball while still in the lathe, cut it off, turned it around and finished it by hand, shaping with a file and polishing with emery papers and Autosol...

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    The gearlever - like the handbrake it transitions from round to flat, but in this case it thins down from 2mm to 1mm. Otherwise it wouldn't fit in the gate. Tomorrow will be the second attempt at machining the gate, I could only find a 1.5 mm diameter mill the first time and it's too big. I'm going to try again with a 1mm coarse router bit.

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    I finally finished the inlet tract, to complete the right side of the engine. The springs on the blow-off(?) valves are from a small ball race bearing. This is also the first time I've used the body colour paint - I needed to paint the steering drop-arm before final assembly.

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    Next is the "coffee can" coil. I found this picture, from a company that replicates old parts:

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    The old coil is on the right

    Here's the start of the coil, machined in one piece with the mount

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