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        Before the Mark II was finished, I was thinking that I need some rest and maybe stopping modeling completely.
        After a few months "without", I noticed that I'm missing something. But, what to do? A new 10-years project is out of question, I need something less complex.
        After a while, it was clear that I had to do something with Cadillac. But what? The answer came rather quickly: a 1930 to 1933 Cadillac V-16 engine and frame, as a rolling frame.
        I have some contacts with people restoring the second version: 1932/33 which differs framewise from the first version 1930/31.
        I will have to do new things, like wire wheels! I searched in this forum for a tutorial, but found nothing. However , I do remember that somebody did recently (1 to 2 years) wire wheels. Can somebody tell me where to search?


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    1. MODEL A MODEL
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      Hello Roger, very glad to hear that you are well!

      -I guess we will have Covid in our lives forever now?

      I am curious as to how you will proceed. With the steering box, that is.
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      10-05-22, 02:39 AM QUOTE QUOTE #917
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      Well, I have the same feeling as you have about Covid.
      Regarding the steering box, I have the impression that it will be OK. Still some holes to do, plus this and that and I can show the result.


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      The steering box is ready and installed on the frame. As I expected, there is a tight fit between the steering column/box and the exhaust pipe; in due time, I will slightly modify the exhaust pipe to have a more comfortable space between both elements.
      The various pictures are showing the involved parts; on the right, I installed a rough steering wheel hub. As you can see, there is also a complex part made with two flanges: the one to close the steering box and holding the pitman shaft and another one which is the attaching element from the unit to the frame.
      When I was in Germany more than three years ago, I had the good inspiration to measure the steering tube length and the distance at its end to the frame. Those dimensions allowed me to do a temporary fixture for the steering box; with that, I could locate exactly the flange attached to the frame before silver soldering it.
      Unfortunately, that steering box will not be without play because the worm's bore is not exactly concentric (Made in USA is definitively not as precise as Made in Switzerland!). The result: some hard spots, but not at the right place and, in between, some play. As its indeed a static model, this unwanted characteristic is not that bad.
      Now, I will do the connecting rod to have a functional steering. And then, the steering wheel to complete this chapter.

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      nice work roger !!!!
      How did You install the end stops ?
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      Thanks, happyfreddy! However, I don't understand your question about the end stops. Is that in reference to the steering box?


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      With a completed steering box, the model now is requesting a steering wheel. It's not the first I'm doing but this one has an annoying characteristic: on top of the rim, there are small ridges in addition to the usual rim's shaping at the underside. How to do that?
      I did a tool to soft solder the rim to have the correct inside diameter. The I did the 60 slots with a milling tool. The idea is to silver solder tiny brass bits. With the proper trimming I may be able to replicate the shape. We'll see soon...
      The attached pictures are showing an original steering wheel, machining the rim, the slots and the soldered brass bits.

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      That is unusual. I wonder why they designed it that way? The high points on one side do not appear to align with those on the other side.

      I assume that you will remount the wheel to your fixture so as to use the lathe and some sandpaper to smooth out the contours? Have you made the other sides "Bumps" already?

      This, unfortunately, will become one of those details, that everyone will see, and not give a second look at, never realizing how much effort has to go into it's creation!

      But we will know!

      Chapeau! (is that what you guys say?)
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      10-16-22, 12:44 PM QUOTE QUOTE #923
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      Nice approach to a difficult design to duplicate.
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      Thanks Paul!
      @Don: I imagine it was done that way to have more grip at the wheel. During a meet in Switzerland, there was a '38 V-16. Different car, engine, suspension and all. But heavy too: I saw the guy at the steering wheel doing a hard job to go into a runabout. with a slippery steering wheel, how to make the turn?
      I will not install the rim again on the fixture, the dents at the back are done and they align with the upper ones according to other pictures I have. There will be a lot of light work to smooth the whole thing...As you wrote, nobody will realize it when looking at the finished job!
      The French expression is correct!


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      For the moment, the rim is ready. Maybe I will try to lower the ridges when the steering wheel will be assembled. On the other side, if they raise in proportion the same as the original ones, they may be unnoticed...

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      In the future when you show this model, and people are amazed that you made every rivet, and the spokes, your own tires, and a working steering box. When your friends and family notice how you faithfully recreated all the suspension, drivetrain and chassis. As passer-byes crowd around you to get a glimpse of your latest masterpiece.

      Remember your friends here! Who knew you when all you had done was a Continental MarkII, an Oldsmobile Toronado, and a Studebacker Avanti!

      Always your fan from Long Beach! Don.
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      Thanks Don, my greatest fan!


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      Once the rim was done, I trimmed the hub and prepare the spokes. They were silver soldered to the hub; the trimming coming after this operation.
      Once the spokes were trimmed, I soft soldered the rim to them. I also added a small decor to the spokes, somewhat simplified compared to the original steering wheel.
      Now, I can do the link between the steering box and the steering lever. I had to buy tap and die for that job; I had nothing as large (3 mm) in my tool store...

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      That should paint up nicely!

      The original is an early form of plastic / resin 1:12 1932 Cadillac V-16 frame and engine over a steel structure?

      Interesting detail, the long thin "spike tip" on the face of the three radiating spokes.

      Like I said, it should all paint up very nicely indeed!
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      10-23-22, 04:05 PM QUOTE QUOTE #930
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      No taps as LARGE as 3mm?
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      10-23-22, 04:09 PM QUOTE QUOTE #931
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