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    1. Kit: , by (Yearly Subscriber) Roger Zimmermann is offline
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      Model Scale: 1/12 Rating:  (4 votes - 5.00 average) Thanks: 8
      Started: 07-26-19 Build Revisions: Never  
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      Before the Mark II was finished, I was thinking that I need some rest and maybe stopping modeling completely.
      After a few months "without", I noticed that I'm missing something. But, what to do? A new 10-years project is out of question, I need something less complex.
      After a while, it was clear that I had to do something with Cadillac. But what? The answer came rather quickly: a 1930 to 1933 Cadillac V-16 engine and frame, as a rolling frame.
      I have some contacts with people restoring the second version: 1932/33 which differs framewise from the first version 1930/31.
      I will have to do new things, like wire wheels! I searched in this forum for a tutorial, but found nothing. However , I do remember that somebody did recently (1 to 2 years) wire wheels. Can somebody tell me where to search?


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  1. happyfreddy's Avatar Established Member
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    Roger, I think both carbs are in main things equal. The posted pic shows them in special way.
    So I would copy the pic and cut off each carb on paper . When putting right over the left part
    perhaps You recognize they are in most details equal.
    I think the right carb stands not in 90° like the left one . The top flange must be equal at both
    parts. Because of the perspective pic it seems that the base connector at right carb is different
    from left carb.
    But for me its only screwed in another position so You canīt see the screw connector like in
    right carb.

    I hope You have a detailled drawing of those parts like blue print ones
    good luck !!
    Last edited by happyfreddy; 10-30-21 at 06:58 AM.
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  2. MODEL A MODEL's Avatar Yearly Subscriber
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    Interesting!

    Each side of the engine had it's own intake system.

    Wow! Look at that distributor!

    Tuning this engine must have been a joy!
    -craftsmanship is a lifelong project of
    self-construction and self determination
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    To Freddy
    That's correct, most parts are identical, left and right. Only details differs like a hole here or a longer casting 1:12 1932 Cadillac V-16 frame and engine there. Difficult to see on my pictures. Anyway, when all is assembled, there will be a LH & RH carb. I don't have blueprints, but good drawings from the shop manual.

    To Don
    I suppose not every mechanic from a back yard garage could properly tune such engines!

    The main body from both carbs are ready. Some cleaning finishing will be necessary before paint. Now, I can continue the throttle bodies as the main bodies will be a guide to attach what's still missing on the throttle bodies.
    Of course, I still will have to fabricate the external elements like metering pin, inlet etc.

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    No floats?
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    On my last picture, the assemblies are upside down. The floats are located into the chambers at the right. Can you not see them?


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    Oh of course!

    I see them now!

    Your the best!
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    Finally, I could finish the "casting" from both carbs. As I wrote earlier, some minute details were skipped. One of the most difficult element to be added to the throttle bodies was the accelerator 1:12 1932 Cadillac V-16 frame and engine pump castings. Thanks to the main carb on which the position of the accelerator 1:12 1932 Cadillac V-16 frame and engine pump was well located, I could do a fixture with a long screw giving the location in the space for that small "casting". This is the first picture.
    As the accelerator 1:12 1932 Cadillac V-16 frame and engine pump casting 1:12 1932 Cadillac V-16 frame and engine was threaded, it could be vertically located at the right place. Then, it was a matter to do a spacer, adjust it at the proper dimension and silver soldering it on the throttle body.
    Now I can do the various element which will be screwed on the carbs.

    1:12 1932 Cadillac V-16 frame and engine-348-silver-soldering-jpg1:12 1932 Cadillac V-16 frame and engine-349-carbs-ready-jpg


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    Roger , are You sure the fuel will flow through that small carburator
    in proper way ??
    I īve heard, that - because the price for fuel getīs higher day for day -
    the petrol industrie decided to make the fuel molecules a little greater
    to earn more money for less fuel...........
    perhaps if You install some debris filter You can get problems with
    fuel flow.............

    in other way Your carburator looks nice and top made so any fuel will
    like them..........
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    Roger , are You sure the fuel will flow through that small carburator
    in proper way ??
    I īve heard, that - because the price for fuel getīs higher day for day -
    the petrol industrie decided to make the fuel molecules a little greater
    to earn more money for less fuel...........
    perhaps if You install some debris filter You can get problems with
    fuel flow.............

    in other way Your carburator looks nice and top made so any fuel will
    like them..........
    QUOTE QUOTE #730

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    Watch out for the Ethanol fuels - they eat away at the solder joints. Restored classics tend to use plastic floats, not brass, for this reason. Have you considered plastic floats?
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    @ Freddy: That's a valid concern. I suppose that there will be a lot of vapor lock during warm days!

    @ Jo: I was not aware of that situation. I may redo the floats!


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    Carbs making is not very exciting. Plus the sale of one of my old cars was a real "distraction" for more than one month. Anyway, I did some small additions like the accelerator 1:12 1932 Cadillac V-16 frame and engine pump, which is in my case just a rod as well as other small details you could maybe catch on the attached pictures. The float's cover is attached by fake screws.
    I still have to make the butterfly shaft and levers.

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  13. MODEL A MODEL's Avatar Yearly Subscriber
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    Really very nice work Roger!

    Getting the proportions right, maintaining hard edges where they're needed and proper radius on other components!

    I think it's exciting! (But then I'm a modeler)

    -Don
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    Thanks Don!


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    Finally the carbs are over. I skipped some details as well as all springs because they are so small it makes no sense to add more complication. The actuating lever is a strange one, its shape is dictated by the exhaust manifold. Nothing is moving on the carbs; shaft, accelerator 1:12 1932 Cadillac V-16 frame and engine pump lever, idle lever and actuating lever are all together soft soldered . Once the carbs are installed, almost no lever can be seen as they are facing the engine.

    1:12 1932 Cadillac V-16 frame and engine-354-carb-ready-jpg1:12 1932 Cadillac V-16 frame and engine-352-carb-ready-jpg1:12 1932 Cadillac V-16 frame and engine-353-carb-ready-jpg


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