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      Model Scale: 1/12 Rating:  (3 votes - 5.00 average) Thanks: 5
      Started: 07-26-19 Build Revisions: Never  
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      Before the Mark II was finished, I was thinking that I need some rest and maybe stopping modeling completely.
      After a few months "without", I noticed that I'm missing something. But, what to do? A new 10-years project is out of question, I need something less complex.
      After a while, it was clear that I had to do something with Cadillac. But what? The answer came rather quickly: a 1930 to 1933 Cadillac V-16 engine and frame, as a rolling frame.
      I have some contacts with people restoring the second version: 1932/33 which differs framewise from the first version 1930/31.
      I will have to do new things, like wire wheels! I searched in this forum for a tutorial, but found nothing. However , I do remember that somebody did recently (1 to 2 years) wire wheels. Can somebody tell me where to search?


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    Wow, very nice part. Markus
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    You'll recall that I have always thought of myself as your biggest fan? -well I see that I have been replaced!

    Very nice work Roger!
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    the difference between fan and fan maybe this


    but as You see Rogerīs fan has six blades ....
    ... so we can hope little more force than old merlin ....
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    Thanks to all!
    Well, my fan will do much less noise than the Merlin engine!

    Doing an engine with flat stock is always an adventure. Even if the crankcase sides are rather flat, there are logically still curves. For the moment, the curves are far away, I have to make the foundations. The first parts are less than glamourous as you can see below.

    Those 3 parts are the base for the crankcase and both sides. But why there are dents on the parts representing the sides?


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    Roger ,
    to explain why dents itīs trivial.......

    A powerful engine has a certain kind of BITE

    And to have any bite You need even only one thing : dents

    because a cadillac V 16 is from generation " Dinosaurier " he has only 24 dents
    instead of the 52 of a "Bahlsen Biscuit" but very strong ones ....
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    Ah! Freddy, funny explanation! In fact, I choose the wrong word: teeth would have more appropriate. Anyway, the solution was not easy unless you know how that crankcase is looking. As an aluminum part, there are studs for the oil pan. The flanges from the crankcase are too thin for the purpose, therefore, bosses are added. At first I wanted to add the bosses individually either before or after the sides were soldered, but to have a constant distance between them was problematic. The teeth will be bent at 90° and will represent the bosses without difficulties, at least I hope so. I have other duties to do before I can begin with that, therefore no pictures for some time.
    I'm adding a picture from a V-12 engine; the V-16 is just longer.

    1:12 1932 Cadillac V-16 frame and engine-build-4-jpg


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    Interesting! Another beautiful engine to add to your collection! Surprisingly modern looking.

    Bending over the tabs to form your bosses? -won't that create a gap at the bottom edge? Why not do sort of the same thing by making a "Gasket" that your crankcase will sit on. The tabs of course extending out flat. A layered approach? Like the proverbial "Piece of cake"?

    A soft solder or body filler used to finish off the join, making a fillet, will help to hide any seam issue.

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    With bented teeth You only had to add a short U profile sheet of brass in certain angle to side sheet to get wanted boss.
    Doing all this with filler or smooth soft solder will never be the " art of work " that belongs to Rogerīs understanding
    how to do it perfect
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    Don, I bent the teeth to have a flat surface without gap at the bottom edge. I did first a test with some scrap, the result was what I expected. The bending corner was set lower than the edge of the part to achieve that.
    To Freddy: those bosses are about 2 x 1.4mm. There are 12 each side and to have each at the same distance is not very easy. The solution I developed is far more convincing.


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    Or? Borrowing from woodworkers? A "box joint"? sort of assembly?

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    Spacing would not be so tight of course.
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    I bow to your achievement!
    -craftsmanship is a lifelong project of
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    Most probably my explanation was not quite right. I just did 2 pictures to show the whole thing.

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    The space between the bosses and the base plate was created because the angle is not right.


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    Simple solutions are almost always the best
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    After a short vacation (we had to go back home earlier because of the virus), the "work" on the engine could resume. The side from the crankcase are now silver soldered to the base. It makes an incredible long engine, but rather narrow.
    I don't know yet how I will do the rear of the crankcase as I have too few pictures from that place but, no worry, I will find a way.

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    I have always admired how you approach your work!

    Most of it is very simple, and straightforward. -it should be encouraging to those who are afraid to try modeling from scratch.

    Yes! -of course some of your solutions did require “The Best Modeling Mind” , (intercoolers, and hub-cap fins, . . . )
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