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    1. Kit: , by (Yearly Subscriber) Roger Zimmermann is online now
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      Model Scale: 1/12 Rating:  Thanks: 1
      Started: 02-25-19 Build Revisions: Never  
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      People here know that I was doing for a long time a Continental Mark II; most may not know that prior to that model, I have also a 1963 Studebaker Avanti and a 1966 Oldsmobile Toronado, both also at the scale 1:12.
      If the Avanti is a pure static model, the Toronado has an electric motor, centrifugal clutch and a 2-speed transmission plus reverse. Window, seat and headlamp doors are electrically operated, but that's far from reliable as you will discover the next few days.
      The goal was to finish the model, but, like every old thing you are dealing with, surprises arrise, usually to our dismay. It will be the same here.


      Now that the Mark II is ready, I have to really finish the Toronado. Why did I not finish it many years ago? Probably because I was very busy with my real cars; anyway, the fact is that the electrical system was not completed and the seat was no more functioning.

      In the seventies or eighties, a neighbors did for me a voltage reducer: the electrical motor for the traction is fed with 6V, but the motors for windows, seat and headlamps are fed with 2V. I had no idea if this device would still function, I never tried it.

      During the break in January, I did a case for four 1.5V batteries, (it could be that I did not completed the model because I had no 6V source) similar to the box I did for the Mark II.

      The first thing I did was to hook that voltage reducer and try if the windows would work. Nothing! However, the inside illumination was on, so I knew that the voltage reducer was active.

      As I had nothing to lose, I tried with the 3V box from the Mark II. The LH window came up, but with a high pitch noise! The RH window came up and down without noise, but very slowly. The quarter windows were OK too, but much slower than I had in memory. The seat would not move and the headlamps would not come up.

      The first work was to open the LH door and remove the motor.



      In retrospect, I did a very good job as everything is attached with screws. Once the motor was out, I separated the motor from the reduction gear and let it run with 1.5V. I had then the confirmation that the vibration came from the motor and not from the reduction!



      I put some oil at the output shaft, without difference. The back is closed; I tried anyway to put a drop of oil on it. I assume that the capillarity from the construction let some oil come at the right place as with the time, the motor went to a quiet mode.



      Itís now back in place, without noise. With 1.5V, it barely goes up and down when connecting the battery directly to the motor. Therefore, I tried again with 3V; it goes somewhat quicker, but you can almost get asleep in between. Thatís a design flaw: to improve the situation, I should use the same motors as the ones from the Mark II; this would require heavy modifications at the doors because the transmission (or reduction gear) is square.

      To understand what was happening and continue the electrical work, I had to remove the rear seat. I discovered the electrical mess under it; if I have the schematic of the system, I donít have identified the wires with the proper color, so Iím lost. There will be some detective work to find out.



      As some elements covered with leather were out, I cleaned them with a leather product. Despite the age (about 40 years old), they are in good shape; I must add that the mileage is maybe 10 yards!




      Finishing my 66 Olds Toronado, scale 1:12
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    Absolutely stunning!!!! Just incredible!!!
    Build what you want and build it for yourself, the rest will follow... - Mark D. Jones
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    Thanks Mark; your own construction is not bad either!


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    Beautiful photograph!
    -craftsmanship is a lifelong project of
    self-construction and self determination
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    Thanks Don! I used a trick: with the camera's flash Finishing my 66 Olds Toronado, scale 1:12 , it was just black. By using a small torch illuminating the dash and the flash Finishing my 66 Olds Toronado, scale 1:12 , I had a much better result.


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    Lately, Iím busier with real cars than with scale models. Ah! The joy working on an underdeveloped air suspension system (1957 Cadillac Eldorado Brougham)!
    Recently, I ordered small connectors for the external battery pack. Unfortunately, those connectors are too small to be practical; I ordered yesterday two different types; one will be the right one. The lack of suitable connectors is the reason why the rear seat is not yet into the model. To diminish the number of laying parts, I assembled the dash. If the attachment of the right portion of the dash is now known with the left radio knob screwed in the structure, I discovered that the left part is attached in a similar manner: the assembly is attached with a screw behind the A/C & heater control which is then glue at its place.
    The fillers Finishing my 66 Olds Toronado, scale 1:12 under the dash are in place too; the left one is needed a bit of glue to stay in place.






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    Hello Roger,

    Again, more fascinating images from Switzerland!

    I have been working in the concept car field for about twenty years now, and I have assembled many dash boards, (IP)'s, over the years, especially clusters, instrument clusters, and the styling evolution is interesting!

    Some early cars had just the minimum, then inspired by the racecars, -instrumentation became more busy, even confusing. The "Jet - Age", with streamlined dials, and the huge speedometer of the early sixties, - a friends '64 Chevy had a speedometer that must have been 12 inches wide! Then the monolithic "cliff face" of your model and a few others.

    Now, heads-up displays are the fashion.

    -I have not gotten to it yet, of course, but the Ford Model A has an interesting dash-board. It doubles as the fuel tank!

    Thank you for all you show and share!

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