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      It is not my intent to start this "New" project right away,(I have as of yet to put two Model A parts together) but in collecting references I noticed a detail I thought I should share.

      I do not know if this is unique or if it is a feature common to all the 8C engine blocks? -The hollow access on the underside of the motor mounts that extend to the chassis rails?


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    The pedals arrangement looks interesting,
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    Whenever I find something new, I post it. If its a new view to me it is probably new to someone else?


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    It would have saved me an awful lot of time if I'd had those views - especially in the areas of the steering box relief,throtttle linkage and dynamo support.... next time I can get them right! Thanks for posting.
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    ​The pedal assembly does look a lot more complicated than I expected!


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    Quote Originally Posted by MODEL A MODEL View Post
    ​The pedal assembly does look a lot more complicated than I expected!
    I think that's because it's right hand throttle, not center as they originally were- hence all the dog- legs to swap the linkage over
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    ​I think your right!


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    ALFA ROMEO 8C 2300 ENGINE MODEL - 1/4th SCALE
    Only a few people get to see this view. Notice the steering box mounts and the contoured area between.




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    Welcome to Jens Andersen!!


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    ALFA ROMEO 8C 2300 ENGINE MODEL - 1/4th SCALE
    In the April 2018, issue of The AUTOMOBILE, there is a review of the latest in the Great Cars series, by Porter Press. ALFA ROMEO MONZA, The autobiography of the celebrated 2211130, by Mick Walsh. 60 pounds!

    I'm not completely wowed by this series, but if any of you are interested, it is the latest. -I may have to drive up to Burbank to take a look?

    -Don



    I've ordered a copy based on a friends recommendation. I'll let y'all know what I think when it shows up.

    - I should receive my copy Tuesday, the below picture is from the book, and I'm hoping to find some dimensions, along with new views at different angles?

    - well I received my copy today, and its a fine book, I'm sure it will be an interesting read, but of the, now four books that I have from this series this one is a bit of a disappointment. (perhaps I was hoping for too much?) It is more about personalities, than the car. - to be fair I have only breezed through it, I'll have to sit down and give it a chance.

    A few useful photos, and one line drawing . . .






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    ALFA ROMEO 8C 2300 ENGINE MODEL - 1/4th SCALE




    This second picture might be of interest to Jo? Showing the vent tubing, rising along the fire-wall. Unfortunately all the pictures of the "scoop" passing through the bonnet, or resting on the surface, were all taken at a distance.






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    ALFA ROMEO 8C 2300 ENGINE MODEL - 1/4th SCALE
    Yes! what's interesting is that the firewall is further forward than the Pocher version - which then puts the scoop in the correct place on the bonnet. I'll take a look at it, but my first action will be to radius the back of the scoop, which is too sharp. It may look a little better.

    Here's where the vent pipe (it actually cools the clutch) goes at the moment

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    Hi Jo!

    I have gone through the book a bit more, looking for new and useful pics, but I think that's all. The car featured has the crackle finish instrument panel, which is seldom used by modelers. - and this particular car has had a few different fender arrangements. It has also had a stiffening bar permanently attached up front to reduce flexing of the front frame, and for a time it had the front dampers replaced with modern equivalents.

    -Don


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    ALFA ROMEO 8C 2300 ENGINE MODEL - 1/4th SCALE
    I have noticed that modelers tend to approach making models in either of two ways. The "engineer" or the "artist". (you can decide for yourself who you are.)

    ( and over the years, I have seen men who give up on model making, for what-ever reasons, but who enjoy everything else about models, except the actual making of them?)

    May I suggest that taking up a pencil and some tracing paper, might give some satisfying hours of a new pursuit? I find that literally making tracings of details helps me to better understand a parts construction. How various parts are related, and soon you may have developed a small catalog of illustrations?

    I mentioned that this new book on the Alfa Romeo Monza by Mick Walsh, is a book as much about the personalities around a car as it is about the car, and as proof of that statement is a three page spread on the work and life of Bob Freeman.

    My first interest in the 8C 2300 engine was because of this illustration. . . . very nice to learn a little more about the man. Thank you Mr. Walsh!




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    ALFA ROMEO 8C 2300 ENGINE MODEL - 1/4th SCALE
    . . . a screen capture from a video, and with proportional dividers we should be able to determine relative scales.



    and a clear picture of the original badge,




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    ALFA ROMEO 8C 2300 ENGINE MODEL - 1/4th SCALE
    The purchase of the MONZA book has re-kindled my interest in the engine, and I have decided to create a "corrected" 1/8th Pocher based model engine to better help me create the 1/4th scale one.

    To know a part you really have to just pour over it and especially with the Pocher parts, you have to question everything.

    Looking at the cylinder block and how it is attached to the crank case, this view is helpful. Also of note is the open end of the engine mount, maybe unique to the PUR-SANG engines? - I don't think this is a Stokes engine.



    This is a "still" from the video found at JAY LENO's GARAGE, his Alfa Romeo episode. -Thank you Mr. Leno!


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