Original 32 Ford

[sydeem]

I hope I didn't offend Bob Cline who originally had the idea by starting this thread but the idea possibilities of mechanical brake rods, wiring, etc really turns me on.

I have uploaded diagrams and parts drawings from the original 32 Ford manual that someone else pointed us to some time ago. I hope others become interested in the possibilities also and add information or actually start a build. I hope to build one.

The drawings are in my album called Original Deuce in my gallery,

[Bob Cline]

In previous sctarched projects I eyeballed, guessed or SWAGged whatever info I could find on the net. This really wasn't satisfying. I really needed detailed drawings/pix with dimensions or could accurately scale them.

If I really got serious about this project I was going to purchase some restoration/shop manuals. 'Cept I don't know which ones are useful for this type of project.

My feelings won't be hurt if someone else with more talent (or not) than me wants to pickup the ball and do it. I've got more ideas than I'll ever be able to complete, anyway.

[docwatson1938]

Sheesh! What a waste of a hot rod!!;)
It would be something different and would really stand out, I know that not only have I never seen a large scale stock 32 i don't know of anyone else has even thought of it seriously!
I would like to see on too.

[Mike1981]

I think this is a great idea, hotrods are cool but a standard build would bring something new to the table and a bit of weathering would bring it up a treat,
Great idea l:

[sydeem]

I am probably going to get in over my head here but I think I will try something like this. I assume the best start would be the old 3 in 1 kit because it has the flathead engine already. I also assume if we grind the fines off the heads would be similar to the original???

[hot ford coupe]

Go for it guys. This will be a great project. Like you said before, no one has ever attempted this kind of thing. The first thing that needs to be done is to figure out what parts you already have and which ones like the heads need to be either modified or scratchbuilt. Once you have a plan, the rest is just a matter of technique. Syd, go ahead and get in over your head. This is the best way to learn how to swim. This is what will lead you over to the dark side (ooohhh) of scratchbuilding and beyond. That's what I did and man, am I glad I took that plunge. This build is exactly what we need. What better than a stock 32 would grace this celebration.

[sydeem]

I think I mentioned elsewhere I am a poor planer and draftsman and an inexperienced scratch builder. I need help from the more experienced and knowledgeable in choosing what kit parts can be used to make an original 32 Ford and what needs scratch building.

I think the kit parts can be the frame, body, flathead engine, generator, starter (both need minor modifications), drive shaft, axils, lights, brake drums, springs and bumpers.

I think Dan can supply the 6-volt battery, stock heads and probably a rear end.

I guess I need to scratch build the intake manifold, single throat carburetor, distributor, generator bracket, air cleaner, modify the brake backing plates for mechanical connections, make plain inside body panels, peddles, peddle mount, mechanical braking fixtures, modify the front radius rods to make a wishbone and exhaust cross over for single exhaust.

If anybody can supply the kit parts to save me buying Monograms $75.00 three in one kit, I would be happy to buy them and whatever else they think I could use. And please, some scratch builder get interested in this project also to save me from myself!

[Rick]

Syd.....this is going to be a really cool build. Take a close look at what you've got and what you need and before you know it, you'll be fabbing parts. You can start by washing all the chrome off the front and rear suspension and making a wishbone. If you have a spare front axel, cut it up, add some pieces and cast it as a non dropped one. With a little creativity, you might be able to turn the kit QC into a stock looking rear end. You could also reverse open the trunk lid for a rumble seat . The possibilities are endless.

We might just let you sit at the bench and stew for a while, but it can be done if you put on your thinking cap.

Rick

[hot ford coupe]

Whatever help you need Syd, all you have to do is ask me and I'll do whatever I can. It's really not that hard to do the scratchbuilding. Once you have some great research material and a few measurements, it's downhill from there. E-mail me if you need.

[sydeem]

I am watching eBay as I may have to buy a full kit to get enough parts to build an "original".

Off topic - I guess I don't know the relative value of older kits. I saw this vintage drag T kit 220084361623 going for over $500.00. You could buy a pretty good Pocher for that. Didn't know an old Revell or Monogram glue together could fetch that.

[hot ford coupe]

Not only that, Syd, but about 6 months ago I think, there were 3 original kits for sale. There was a Big Deuce, A Big Drag and I forget the other one. Some guy won all three and paid a total price of about $4500 bucks. We couldn't believe that those kits could fetch that much. He must really have anted those kits BAD. So now 500 bucks seems to be a decent price.:eek:

[sydeem]

Taking the drop out of the front axle was easy but I am in trouble trying to figure out how the front brakes worked. I can fake the front spindle from these pictures but how the heck does the front and back pull of the brake rods translate up to the drum when you have a front wheel steering back and forth???

Scaled down, this spindle is going to be very fragile.

[j_nigrelli]

this is helping me with the lever shocks!

[sydeem]

Almost got the front axle right but not enough curve at the ends and still needs a little smoothing. The spring does not attach correctly according to the bottom picture of an original axle. So back to the drawing boards???