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      O.K. let's put thoughts about twisted spokes for wire wheels here.:o
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    OK I'm with Glu in this. The best way would be with a full length of wire.

    Don, did ya ever figure out just how long 36 spokes on four 1/8 scale wheels is. Something like 24 feet +-.

    First you need the stock. I don't know about your area but I haven't a clue where to get a 24 foot long piece of hex wire so I'm thinking what about a pair of dies and make your own. Shouldn't be that hard to do. if you use a soft stock like brass, aluminum or copper. Once you get the wire its a straight forward deal with one end in a vise the other in a drill and keep it pulled tight while slowly twisting it.

    I would think the copper or brass could be chrome plated Twisted Spokes afterwords.
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    Try a company named Contenti. They have drawplates in different styles. Basicly all you do is pull material thru the opening and it scrapes some metal off and compacts it also at the same time . You pull it thru a series of smaller and smaller openings till you get the size you need.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Don Garrett
    twisted spokes for wire wheels here.:o
    Oh....I thought you were going to talk about a Rock & Roll Band that I once played with (NOT!)
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  4. Ok my 2 cent worth here ! I've been thinking about this all day and this is what I come up with,first of all you'll need to find enough material , Daniel was right about 24 feet should do it I use approx 20 odd feet to lace 4 x 36 spoke per wheel 1/8 scale wheels .
    To twist them my thoughts are to mount a length of wire between the tail stock and headstock chuck in a lathe for hex wire use a 3 jaw chuck and for octag wire you will need to use a 4 jaw chuck to clamp the stuff securely next take up the tention of the wire and make sure the ends are firmly clamped either end the trick to ensuring you get an even twisting pattern is not to tighten the tail stock securing nut just take up the slack so the tail stock can slide on the lathe bed without it chattering on the bed as it slides along the bed the wire is twisting and becoming shorter.
    If using brass (recomended) I would very lightly heat the full length of the wire lengths while they are still secured in the lathe, this method will ensure the wire retains it's shape once removed from it's mounts.
    The entire wheel assembly can be "nickel plated Twisted Spokes " to give a chromed look after completion, I sooo hate the term "chrome plating" guys we are modelmakers not 1/1 Twisted Spokes car builders at least on this site anyway:D

    Mate if your not sure send me a couple of 600mm lengths and I'll give it a go for you .

    P.S It is good to be giving scratchbuilding advise again started to think you guys forgot about me !!:p :D
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    Great input guys, fuzzy...the draw plate suggestion never crossed my mind. If I could fix both ends of the wire and rotate the draw plate that would solve the problem, but that's out of the question. I will try using them to make some stock. Dan, I tried a drill, can't control the number of rotations even at slow speeds. Modelmaker, I think you may have found the hidden bugaboo I was running into....I didn't factor in the wire getting shorter as it was twisted...Duh. Allowing one end to slip in a lathe..........now that sounds like it might work. Thanks for all the help guys.:D


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    Now if you could only order them in 1/8.
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    That's what I'm talking about!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


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    You know that looks more like square stock to me.
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    Don't care.....I want at least hex. :p


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    Do you have access to an old "eggbeater " handcrank type handrill? Just a thought.
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    Not a bad idea fuzzy....but I'm gonna try the lathe and turn it by hand, that way I can count the number of turns.;)


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  12. Hey Don hows those twisted spoke wheels coming along ? it's been a while since you started this thread , you haven't given up on them have you ?

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    Nope.......just finishing some other projects and gathering materials for the coach work (wood body).


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  14. Ok let me know when you start them I'm looking forward to seeing them the concept sounds interesting !

    Sean
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