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      I mentioned in a post on my '36 3W last weekend that I had had a bit of a brain wave regarding making some narrow aluminium rims. Well here is how I went about it.
      I had an empty coke can on my bench and for some reason was looking at it and could see the makings of a wheel rim.

      I cut the top of the can just below the rolled edge at the top of the can. See the dotted line in the image below.

      I made this cut with a junior hacksaw. Which I infact use for all my modeling cuts!

      Here is the 2 pieces after cutting

      The piece we are interested in is the top of the can. Now we have to remove the centre of the top of the can, to end up with what will be half of our wheel rim.
      I remove the unwanted section by filing along the area that is indicated by the black dashes.

      I suggest filing along the edge, rather than across it. because when you start to break through, if you were filing across the edge, because the aluminium is so thin the file may grab and distort where you are cutting. Of course this may not be a problem if you are using an ultra fine file.

      OK, we have to do this to 2 cans; so we end up with 2 rims halves.


      As I will be joing these together with JB weld I needed to come up with a way to hold the rims in alignment for the joining process. There are all sorts of ways this could be done. But I want something simple, easy and didn't introduce any stress into the joint that may allow the joint to become misaligned.
      I came up with a simple piece of cardboard that goes on the inside of the rim. Also the beauty of the cardboard, is that if any JB weld oozes out of the joint onto the cardboard the cardboard is still easily removed after the JB weld has set!


      Here is a shot of the rim with the JB weld applied. Basically you are putting a layer of JB weld in the rim that bridges the 2 halves.

      Because the can has a protective coating, if you want to polish the rim as I have done in this case. You will need to sand Article: Narrow 1/8th Scale Aluminium Rims off the coating, prior to polishing. Even unpolished the finish is quite nice.



      Because I am such a lousy photographer, some of these images are pretty ordinary, but I can tell you this; the polished rim here in real life is like a piece of jewellery.
      Something you have to be awhere of, is that not all aluminium cans are the same. The outside diameter on the big diameter of these rims is 2 1/8" ( 53mm ) and the inside diameter on the small diameter ( ie where the join occurs ) is 1 3/4" ( 44.5mm ). The Coke cans I used also have a real nice conical shape in the transition section going from top to bottom ( of this rim section that is ).
      These rims fit beautifully into the Big T Michellin's. It's just a matter of fitting a centre. I am working on a centre for mine.
      These rims would make ideal rims for use on motorcycle models as well.
      They don't even need to go on a model, they are just neat to look at.
      Geoff aka whodaky


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  1. hot ford coupe's Avatar VIP/Sponsor
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    It makes perfect sense, Geoff. I'm really enjoying this thread.
    Sometimes a handful of patience is worth more than a truck load of brains. Have the courage to trust your own beliefs. Don't be swayed by those with louder voices. W.S. Maugham :)
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    Follow this link to read about soldering aluminum, at trade shows I have seen guys doing demos butt soldering aluminum cans together.

    Link: http://www.neymetals.com/tips_for_ney380.htm
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    Perhaps check the auto parts or hardware store for liquid alumium...it's a two part epoxy Article: Narrow 1/8th Scale Aluminium Rims that might polish up? Color might not be an issue with it.
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    Soldering aluminum would be a great help. I was talking to an industrial science instructor about aluminum and he told me the heat dissipates too quickly from the area to be effective. If the temperature can be held high enough, the solder may kick and flow. Anybody know if the oxide builds up too fast to allow the solder to stick?
    Sometimes a handful of patience is worth more than a truck load of brains. Have the courage to trust your own beliefs. Don't be swayed by those with louder voices. W.S. Maugham :)
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    Nertz, maybe I should have read the article before I made my last post. Looks like the oxide is a big part of the problem.
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    Glad everyone is getting something out of this thread. Especially as it is generating other ideas to assemble the rims for an individual's own application.
    I will probably stick with the JB weld process, so as not to introduce other complexities to what for the most part is a relatively quick and simple rim assembly.
    OK was at the 'wheel works bench' after work today. Looking at what I am doing with the Jag wires. I want to put a big centre cap in the Jag wires to give them a bit of an early Ford wire look. I got to thinking about the chrome wire wheels in the Lindeberg, Big Red Rod kit. I had forgotten what the caps for those wires were like, so I dug into my 1/8th stash of stuff.
    The caps and knock offs for the Lindeberg chrome wires I don't think are suitable for my Jag wire application. But the definitely work for my no hole Halibrand application!
    So the experimenting continues HFC.
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    Can't say anything but KOOOOOOL !!!!!! The knockoffs definitely lend a different look to the wheel.
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    That whitewall really sets the stage for a great looking wheel.......understated elegance, as home on a rod as it would be on a full blown custom....all for a couple of bucks, a spot of time and the ability to see the treasures hinding in everyday toss away stuff.
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    Now you will have to turn some valve stems out of aluminum rod, polish them up. Maybe even some screw on valve caps.

    A wild thought on you wheels while I am at it. Polish up some stainless steel rod and add wires staggered about the rim stepped in and out. They would create some interesting relections in the polished aluminum dish. Also could look interesting in you deep wheels to. Just a thought. I am kind of partial to wire because of my e-type.
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    I'm really lovin' the look of those pop can rims. there's a bunch of aftermarket stuff that is expensive and doesn't look half as good as those gorgeous wheels.
    Sometimes a handful of patience is worth more than a truck load of brains. Have the courage to trust your own beliefs. Don't be swayed by those with louder voices. W.S. Maugham :)
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    Quick update for Slingshot.
    Late tonight I had a bit of an idea on how remove the step from the wide rim as shown above. So that we can end up with the one piece looking rim.
    I will show what I am doing tomorrow and I hope it works. We will see tomorrow.
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    I too have been inspired by Whodaky, and have started collecting aluminum cans for part of my Project 32.
    You can have any color you want, as long as it's black. Henry Ford
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    Good one Robjo. As I said earlier there are a few variations in different brands of cans. But the various subtle differences can work in your favor.
    Later I will show a couple of images to show different off-sets for narrrow front wheels.
    Will also shoot a few images to show the one piece look for the wide rim!
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    Rob, while you are collecting pop cans, put aside a 2 litre Pepsi bottle, plastic milk jug etc. When you have some relax and clear your head time......set them in front of you and see how many bubble tops, hood scoops, fender skirts etc. you can find hiding in there. I saved an old belt clip from a cell phone holder because it would make a great hood for a bow tie powered riding mower if I ever get the time. FREE PARTS but they do like to play hide and seek.
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    OK, as promised for Slingshot.
    Last evening I was looking at one of the wide rims and then had an idea as to how to make them look one piece; if that's the look one needs.
    So I figured if I file across the stepped joint I just may end up with the desired one piece look. Well it worked! But I only did a small section so far. Because unlike the first wide aluminium rim I did I hadn't put any JB weld across the joint on the back side of the rim. And if I was to continue filing away the step in the rim, eventually there would be little or nothing holding the centre part of the rim to the outside parts of the rims.
    See the red arrow for the filed area! With all that filing the shoulder of the rim in this area is less pronounced.

    Here is an image of the first wide rim I did. I spread JB weld across the joints on the back of the rim.

    The next image is of the rim I am filing away on. This image shows that only one of the seams has been covered in JB weld. The reason I didn't didn't initially put JB weld on the back seams of this rim is I decided that it wasn't necessary. However now that I am filing the step away, JB weld is essential in this area for the joint to stay together. I am planning on letting the JB weld set for a few days before I totally file the step off.
    With this one piece rim style, I think when putting the flare on the rim centre edges so that it will overlap the rim outers, care must be taken to get a good match on the flared joint so that when the step is filed away on the 'seen' side of the rim, one only ends up with a hairline at the joint; that will be virtually unnoticeable.

    Geoff aka whodaky


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