View Full Version : New project, new technique

Old Busted Hotness
10-07-06, 08:26 PM
Here's one I haven't seen before, so I'll post it up here and see if anyone salutes.

Working at the LHS exposes me to a variety of techniques and materials used in areas of modeling that most people wouldn't think to translate into car modeling, but as a car guy I have to try them all.

Electric airplane pilots have been using Depron foam for the last year or so to build "profile" planes- basically a 2-dimensional airplane that flies by virtue of its overpoweredness. Depron is a rigid, closed-cell foam that's easy to cut, easy to sand, comes in large 12x48 sheets, and can be fiberglassed over. It's sold under the trade name Midwest Cellfoam 88 in thicknesses from 3 to 10mm.

You see where this is going?

Back in the early 90's I bought an IH Scout II for $200. It was a real rustbucket, but dead reliable and it would go anywhere. I drove it home through 16 inches of snow. The whole time I owned it, it only got stuck once, when the front wheels went into an unseen ditch and the frame was resting on the ground. I loved that truck, even if it was an old POS. So I want to make an RC model of my old Scout.

The Depron, being rigid, doesn't lend itself well to complex curves. Fortunately the Scout has few curves of any kind. The creases along the beltline were made by carving out a V-shaped trench on the backside, folding the foam and gluing in angled braces using foam-safe CA glue.

http://www.scalemotorcars.com/forum/images/imported/2006/10/5.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

The old Binder is just a big box with slightly rounded edges, so the build will go pretty quickly. Once it's taken on its final shape, I'll hit it with some fibreglass resin, add windows and lights, fab up a grille from sheet styrene and give it a coat of my favorite color- primer gray 1red1

http://www.scalemotorcars.com/forum/images/imported/2006/10/6.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

I'll build up the sides with some 3mm foam to give the profile a little more definition, add an undercut to the rocker panels, score some panel lines, give it some Barn Baby weathering (not the full treatment, just enough) and mount it on a chassis. I'm going to make some proper 8-spoke wagon wheels, too.

After this, who knows? I've always liked the '74 Monte Carlo....

hot ford coupe
10-08-06, 01:10 AM
Not bad at all. Sounds like a good plan. Make sure you take plenty of pics so we can see what to do. Thanks in advance.

Don Garrett
10-08-06, 02:47 AM
Thanks for posting the photos OBH......I'm sure the guys are already thinking about uses for the closed cell foam. I know it's available in black as well and can be purchased in a variety of thicknessnesses including blocks. Just a heads up to you guys that want to give it a try....some paints and adhesives react badly with this stuff...it WILL melt! As OBH mentioned use foam safe adhesives and sealers.
Love the IH, mid seventies? If I remember correctly mine had a 345 cu.in. and some really funky eagle head graphics that ran the entire length of both sides. I'll get your lights out to you Monday...great job!l: l: l:

Old Busted Hotness
10-08-06, 08:14 AM
By the time I got mine, it had been painted John Deere green, apparently with a mop. So to salvage some of its honor I hit it with primer gray right off the bat. It was originally yellow, and I recall seeing the ghost of some sort of graphic under all that paint, but is was so damned thick I couldn't make out what it was. $200 doesn't buy a pretty truck 1red1

Mine had the 345, too. That engine hauls school buses around, and it sure did the job!

I tested some materials on a scrap bit of foam. Shoe Goo, auto-body filler and regular CA glue all had an adverse effect, to varying degrees, collapsing the cell structure after 20 minutes or so.

I got a little bit done last night. Added one side panel and got a wheel done.

Don Garrett
10-08-06, 08:22 AM
I'll see if I can find an old photo of mine taken before it saw any serious boonie bashin'. There were some engine, trans swap deals going on between Rambler (AMC), IH and Chrysler back then.

hot ford coupe
10-08-06, 02:55 PM
Where do I find some of this stuff?

Old Busted Hotness
10-09-06, 06:58 PM
I picked it up at work. Any shop that sells electric planes should carry it, and if they have Midwest balsa they can order it.

I got a little more done today, just too lazy to put up a pic. Once the initial shape is there, the visible progress slows dramatically.

Don Garrett
10-09-06, 07:21 PM
Another source would be architectural modeling supplies and even well stocked art supply stores.:)

hot ford coupe
10-09-06, 08:50 PM
I'll check it out. Thanks guys.

Old Busted Hotness
10-13-06, 08:27 AM
Made a little progress on the body. Laid some fiberglass down (you can see the left side is shiny now) with Microballoons filler for easier sanding.

And there's gonna be a lot of sanding.

http://www.scalemotorcars.com/forum/images/imported/2006/10/7.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

The epoxy has to dry overnight, so progress is slow.

Old Busted Hotness
10-23-06, 03:42 PM
Due to popular demand on some of the other forums, this is now being made as a plug for Lexan bodies, so other RC'ers will be able to buy one. This requires a slight change in building technique (it has to be a lot stronger, for one thing, and pretty airtight).

Progress pics soon. I just cleaned out my camera :)

Old Busted Hotness
10-23-06, 06:06 PM
Here's a little progress. Starting to look more like a Scout now :)

http://www.scalemotorcars.com/forum/images/imported/2006/10/18.jpg (http://imageshack.us)


I need to tweak the wheelbase a little bit, the front suspension links were already attached to the axle and I wanted to get it rolling asap 1wack1

10-23-06, 06:49 PM
Dare to be different, thats what its all about.


Don Garrett
10-24-06, 05:49 AM
OBH......the off road rugged terrain you have the Scout displayed in looks great! Did it take a long time to assemble that authentic looking diorama?:D :D :D

Old Busted Hotness
10-24-06, 07:17 PM
A tidy workbench is a sure sign of a sick mind he1he

Old Busted Hotness
11-03-06, 02:57 PM
Here's the finished product, just before I stuck it in a box to be cloned in Lexan. Soon you'll be seeing these all over the trails, but remember where you saw it first he1he

http://www.scalemotorcars.com/forum/images/imported/2006/11/1.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

When I get it back, I'll pull the extra bits off, paint it up and set to mounting it on my chassis. Somewhat ironic that I spent more time sanding this one, than this one:


There's also considerably less rust on this one as well 1red1

Old Busted Hotness
01-24-07, 11:20 PM
Well, guys, I got the original back today, after its little cloning session. It's sure tough putting something in a box after spending a month building it, but when you get to open that box a couple months later, it's worth it. And knowing that I've done my bit to maintain the IH legend helps, too.

Did a bit of detailing and went for a drive:
http://www.scalemotorcars.com/forum/images/imported/image_missing.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

I used Deuce headlights, Tamiya King Hauler windshield wipers, a driver figure made from a Monster Beetle driver and a Wal-Mart wrestling figure's head (he looks just like me) and filled up the cargo area with junk.

http://www.scalemotorcars.com/forum/images/imported/2007/01/13.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

Reminds me of the day I bought my 1:1 Scout, driving home a hundred miles in 10 inches of snow, in 4-wheel hi 1red1

Don Garrett
01-25-07, 06:01 AM

Old Busted Hotness
02-04-07, 04:30 PM
All finished, with rust, lights, a brass bumper, etc 1red1


I used the ACME license plate maker to do the plates. The brass bumper is strong enough to use as a handle (the rig weighs almost 10 pounds)


hot ford coupe
02-04-07, 05:17 PM
I tell ya. If I didn't see the starting pics, I would have no clue that it's a scale model. Sterling work.

02-04-07, 05:29 PM

Don Garrett
02-04-07, 08:09 PM
The rusted out sections are brilliant.......great build!

Old Busted Hotness
03-17-07, 11:23 PM
It appears that I've inspired another Scout build. One of the major manufacturers of Lexan bodies has just released a body that looks suspiciously like a Scout 800, with a different grille.

I'm still waiting for my check.

Old Busted Hotness
06-30-07, 11:15 AM
I took the hog down to Georgia for a scale truck meet, and had a blast.

I had a shot at the 1.9 class, but couldn't make one gate. Rolled it over twice and had to take a reposition penalty. No damage to the body other than a few scrapes (which just add character)

And I took home some hardware.

hot ford coupe
06-30-07, 01:45 PM
Wow, that' really looks great. If I didn't know it was a model, I would have glossed over this as a real scene. Congrats on the hardware. 1thumbup1 1thumbup1 1thumbup1

Don Garrett
06-30-07, 02:33 PM
Way to go O.B. 1thumbup1 1thumbup1 1thumbup1 1thumbup1

06-30-07, 03:51 PM
SWEEEEEEEEET! 1thumbup11thumbup1

Don Garrett
06-30-07, 05:35 PM
[QUOTE=Old Busted Hotness;16457]

"I had a shot at the 1.9 class, but couldn't make one gate. Rolled it over twice and had to take a reposition penalty. No damage to the body other than a few scrapes (which just add character)."

How 'bout that.....O.B.H. plays with his toys. gringrin

06-30-07, 06:01 PM
Wow!! Why don't you build a "weathered" 32 salt flats racer?

Old Busted Hotness
06-30-07, 06:13 PM
Don't go filling me up with ideas, I still have to finish the Thing, the Galion, the Blazer and the tuber before I go starting another project.

Although another scratchbuilt is calling me, itching to be born.

07-01-07, 05:40 AM
OBH, that is incredible!!!!
Geoff aka whodaky