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roymatthewblack
01-30-13, 10:40 AM
It's been announced on the Hornby-Pocher website, and there's an awesom video on Youtube:

Pocher Model kits 1:8 - Lamborghini Aventador - YouTube (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BtqTO67skOg&feature=youtu.be)

Roy.1clap11clap11clap1

Ton
01-30-13, 11:20 AM
POCHER präsentiert dieses Traumauto nun im Maßstab 1:8 als hochwertigen Bausatz mit mehr als 600 Teilen. An die POCHER Tradition anknüpfend besteht die Karosserie des rund 7 kg schweren Modells vollständig aus Metall und ist bereits fertig lackiert. Diverse Teile sind beweglich, Türen und Hauben zu öffnen. Sogar Rechts- oder Linkslenkung ist berücksichtigt. Der passgenaue Bausatz hat viele geschraubte Bauteile und ist somit leicht zusammenzubauen.

Looks very nice! 600 parts, all metal, 7 kg and pre-painted. Left and right hand driving available.

FineModelCars
01-30-13, 01:29 PM
Anybody know the Price?

FineModelCars
01-30-13, 01:30 PM
What a pity, i wish a classic car!!

Don Garrett
01-30-13, 02:15 PM
Well, guys it is what is, regardless of price.
Great news for some I'm sure........but not for me.

The creative explorer
01-30-13, 02:33 PM
Even though I wanted a nice classic Pocher, I must say I am enthused with it. Hoping the price won't be too terrible and I might get me one.

Egon
01-30-13, 02:36 PM
The real thing, wonder how Pocher's is.

sjordan
01-30-13, 03:33 PM
The real thing, wonder how Pocher's is.

You can get a quick look at an overhead shot in the video linked in post #1. You may need to freeze frame.

sjordan
01-30-13, 05:32 PM
New Aventador roadster. Can Pocher be far behind?

Video - Breaking News Videos from CNN.com (http://www.cnn.com/video/?hpt=hp_t2#/video/us/2013/01/29/dnt-fl-lamborghini-aventador-unviel.wsvn)

Dougritt
01-30-13, 05:37 PM
I live about 5 miles from our Lamborghini dealer. Having seen the Aventador in person...I love that Pocher chose this car. It is beautiful from every angle. Will Brady be selling these?

SVtrackhead
01-30-13, 06:17 PM
I live about 5 miles from our Lamborghini dealer. Having seen the Aventador in person...I love that Pocher chose this car. It is beautiful from every angle. Will Brady be selling these?Yes, although it will likely be months before it is ready, and no pricing info yet.

Here's a shot of the Pocher kit prototype's engine
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Alex70
01-31-13, 05:34 AM
Finally, a welcome return. hopefully it will be the beginning of a wonderful series including classic and truck. I also hope the Bugatti Veiron. You already know what it will cost? Hello.


Alex.

Egon
01-31-13, 01:57 PM
Autographmodel.com have a price of 600 € and a waitinglist

Alex70
01-31-13, 03:29 PM
1wthe1Wow that high price. and also a waiting list? I hope my dealer to procure a more reasonable price. Ciao.


Alex.

SVtrackhead
01-31-13, 03:45 PM
Mid to late Fall 2013 is the anticipated availabilty. 600 Euro is a good projected price, but is not firm yet. At least it is not far from what the Pocher F40 kits are selling for now (in the US), but with anticipated much better quality from modern manufacturing methods and Chinese factories.

If it stays true to Hornby's business model production will be based on demand via advance orders and the market will not be flooded or discounted.

PS: no word yet on how close the prototype in the video is to the production kit, hopefully not too far as the fit looks miles better than on the F40 or Porsche.

Alex70
01-31-13, 04:12 PM
I remain convinced that the price is high, we do not consider that the F40 has high prices because it has been sold out and rare , when the pokers distributing it to equal its range, the cost could take a classic. But I hope at least they worth. Hello.


Alex.

SVtrackhead
01-31-13, 04:26 PM
I had hoped for $500-$600. It has to make business sense for Hornby in any case, and I don't think the older kits ever really did for Pocher.

Alex70
01-31-13, 04:39 PM
Ah I thought 600 euros, $ 600 is already more approachable, and the proportion with the Testarossa or F40 believe me at that time did not cost so proportional. However, beginning to fill the piggy bank and wait to read the reviews of the first lucky ones who will be able to build it. Ciao.


Alex.

SVtrackhead
01-31-13, 04:45 PM
I hoped US $500-600. In reality it will indeed be 600 Euros or more.

3.Star
02-04-13, 05:37 PM
Took me some thought. I don't really like these blown-up Audis. Lamborghinis and Ferraris are some kind "too loud" for me. I'd love to have a Pocher of the classic series again, but this Aventador looks right. Ordered one in white already and will be awaiting it. We 1/8 th scale guys have to get what's offered, or doing the cars on our own.
Cheers
Michael

rshousha
02-04-13, 09:13 PM
Fellows,

I have put in a request to sell these, like I sold hundreds of kits for the old Pocher company. If they are interested, I should have some soon enough. I have a little war chest ready to buy a couple of hundred kits. I'll let you know as soon as I get some.

Regards,

Rick Shousha
Montreal

spinellid82
02-05-13, 11:23 AM
Good point Micheal, this new Lambo is the only new "mass-produced" 1/8 scale kit available to even dream about building so if you are interested you might as well get one or two before the profit seekers have all that are left and the price goes crazy. What does 600 Euro's convert to...$850 or so? I say if you want one and you have the coin get in on the early orders! They'll only go up from here!

rshousha
02-05-13, 11:41 AM
Speaking of profit-seekers, I wish I had hung on to some of the early Bugatti kits I had. In 2002, I was buying them for $250 from Pocher and selling them anywhere from $325 for the 50T to $375 for the Suprofile. From a business perspective, the mark-up was right. Little did I know the company would crash! I think I was selling the Muletto for $295.

On the other hand, a business is a business and I will continue to run my company with the expectation that my suppliers remain in business. So, once the price is set by the company, it will be interesting to see what happens on eBay with "collector" prices.

Regards,
Rick

spinellid82
02-05-13, 11:44 AM
Nothing against profit seekers Rick, we all have to eat!

rshousha
02-05-13, 11:50 AM
Indeed. Still, I was brought up in a manufacturing context and the important thing for me has always been to design a cool product, make it well, get a decent price, and then cut costs and ramp up production. I'm really not good at things like limited-production items, collector items, or antiques. If I were building the Aventador, I'd start with a basic kit and introduce after-market kits and modifications as the demand increased and the quality improved.

Actually, I would have started with a 1929 V-16 Caddillac....but that's a whole other story.

spinellid82
02-05-13, 11:52 AM
I like the Caddy but would have gone with a Pierce Arrow first, LOL.

3.Star
02-05-13, 11:57 AM
Will stick a note saying "project 2043" over the price tag to prevent any discussion at home, before I put it on the shelf near my Pocher Benzes.he1he

rshousha
02-05-13, 01:11 PM
The car we rented at our wedding was a 1933 Pierce Arrow. Awesome car. My wife was petrified.

Alex70
02-05-13, 03:16 PM
Excuse me, but if I understand those who want the Lamborghini must buy it now because then the price will be high? because it is not sold in hobby shops, and who has the exclusive right to sell? Ciao.


Alex.

rshousha
02-05-13, 03:23 PM
Alex,

It's all speculation. I am still waiting for a call from Pocher; no prices have been announced; no production levels have been announced; and no suppliers have been chosen. We all love to talk and get ourselves excited.

Regards,

Rick

sjordan
02-05-13, 04:28 PM
Good point Micheal, this new Lambo is the only new "mass-produced" 1/8 scale kit available to even dream about building so if you are interested you might as well get one or two before the profit seekers have all that are left and the price goes crazy. What does 600 Euro's convert to...$850 or so? I say if you want one and you have the coin get in on the early orders! They'll only go up from here!

Autograph models (a retailer) says they expect a price of 600 euros (about $815), which includes value added tax, but they don't charge VAT. So that brings it down to around $660 plus shipping.

3.Star
02-05-13, 04:38 PM
I made my pre-acquisition on autographmodels.com. They are located in Germany and tell the prize about 600,-- Euros. Don't know how much shipping will be to the lower 48 states, but V.A.T. of 19 % will fall out.
Thinking about the Orange Aventador, too. Will make my wife walking barefeeted and my 2nd car run dry, but I don't really care.
(Have you guys ever seen your beloved woman walking by a shoestore?) It's no use to tell her, that she looks more admirable, when walking barefooted.
Cheers
Michael

spinellid82
02-05-13, 07:01 PM
I remember as a child riding in great grandpa's 1929 Pierce Arrow limo. Fond memories of an exquisite automobile and GGP's tobacco pouch.

TK Chan
02-07-13, 02:46 PM
I have also pre-ordered the orange Aventador from Autographmodels.com. It's a bargain for Euro 600 comparing how much an Amalgam 1/8 model costs. It's interior details may not be comparable though having only 600 parts for such a big size.

Alex70
02-08-13, 10:06 AM
Hi all, I would like to know please from those who have prdinato the model, how the payment system, let me explain better, Pua pay in installments and the balance before shipment in October? and if so, how does it work?1hey1


Alex.

Alex70
02-08-13, 10:07 AM
Hi all, I would like to know please from those who have order the model, how the payment system, let me explain better, Pua pay in installments and the balance before shipment in October? and if so, how does it work?<img src="http://www.scalemotorcars.com/forum/images/smilies/image107.gif" border="0" alt="" title="Hey" smilieid="69" class="inlineimg"><br><br><br>Alex.

SVtrackhead
02-08-13, 10:47 AM
Hi Alex,

The plan I have set up via PayPal here (http://www.scaleautoworks.com/PocherLamboKit.html) deducts $100. per month from your PayPal account (or bank or credit card) for 9 months, at which point you are fully paid including shipping for US orders. International shipping may require an extra partial payment when the kits arrive to cover shipping. If the price is lower than $850. any overage will be refunded, and all deposits and payments are kept in a dedicated account.

Hi all, I would like to know please from those who have prdinato the model, how the payment system, let me explain better, Pua pay in installments and the balance before shipment in October? and if so, how does it work?1hey1
Alex.

Alex70
02-08-13, 11:22 AM
Hello, I'm sorry but the translator of google I did not realize you were sending me email to my email. So you're also the one who takes orders for Autograf? I have subscribed to the site. if you can send me in detail all the steps with the installment plan. I do not live in America but in Italy. Keep in mind that if you decide to take the Lamborghini pay in euro 'or dollars?1hey1


Alex.

3.Star
02-08-13, 11:30 AM
Hello Alex,

take a look at the autograph site to see terms and conditions. Pocher 1/8 model kit Lamborghini Aventador HK100 Orange Argos, 600,00 (http://shop.autographmodel.com/Pocher-1-8-model-kit-Lamborghini-Aventador-HK100-Orange-Argos).
Sounded more than fair for me.

Cheers
Michael

SVtrackhead
02-08-13, 03:48 PM
Hello Alex,

I do not know if Autograph has a payment plan, but I am Brady of ScaleAutoWorks (http://www.scaleautoworks.com/PocherLamboKit.html) < link. Click the link for details on my payment plan, which I set up at the specific request of my customers.
Uli of Autograph is also a reliable seller, but I can't imagine the price in the EU will be that much different than in the US. I think he is being optimistic, and I am being cautious so I may be able to surprise my customers with a better price. In any case I am getting my price estimate straight from Hornby USA in US$. The PayPal payment will be converted automatically to foreign currencies for international customers.

Notice I do not require a deposit to order the kit, it merely secures earlier delivery of your order once the kits are ready.

Uli at Autograph gets his production and delivery info from the Pocher importer Lemke in Germany, and says production will not be limited and delivery will be 3rd quarter of 2013. I get my info from Hornby USA, who say production will be limited, and delivery 4th quarter 2013. Who is right? We will find out when the kits are here. It will be exciting in any case, and no reason for silly arguments on the internet. gringrin

Hello, I'm sorry but the translator of google I did not realize you were sending me email to my email. So you're also the one who takes orders for Autograf? I have subscribed to the site. if you can send me in detail all the steps with the installment plan. I do not live in America but in Italy. Keep in mind that if you decide to take the Lamborghini pay in euro 'or dollars?1hey1


Alex.

3.Star
02-08-13, 05:50 PM
Won't mind, as having been a well serviced customer by this trador. But, as an European reciever, you're in to customs...just calculate the package and taxes. These 19% and more will have to be calculized.

SVtrackhead
02-12-13, 01:16 PM
I contacted Hornby/Pocher of Spain directly today (they are in charge of development for the new Pocher kits) and had a very informative conversation. The info I was given turns out to be a combination of what Uli/Autograph and I had been told previously:

Production will start in August (3rd quarter), but deliveries of the kit (by boat from China) will likely be 4th quarter.

2013 production of orange and white Pocher Lamborghini kits will be limited to a quantity enabling delivery before Christmas. White will not be produced after this first production run, but orange will be produced again, with the addition of a new color, in 2014.



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Uli at Autograph gets his production and delivery info from the Pocher importer Lemke in Germany, and says production will not be limited and delivery will be 3rd quarter of 2013. I get my info from Hornby USA, who say production will be limited, and delivery 4th quarter 2013. Who is right? We will find out when the kits are here.

SVtrackhead
02-23-13, 03:13 PM
updated official suggested retail price info:

US: $799.99
EU: 649 Euro

rshousha
02-23-13, 03:41 PM
How can they make money at this price? It doesn't seem viable. So, we should grab whatever they make. If this is the price, it won't last long.

Cheers,

Rick

3.Star
02-23-13, 04:43 PM
Price has already been risen to 620,-- Euros. Think I've made the right decision to order one in Isis White. The Orange version will be produced in 2014 as well as a new colour coming up. Got plenty of time to plan this project. What do you guys think about this interior?2334723348

Alex70
02-23-13, 04:48 PM
Very very very god this interiorgringrin.


Alex.

Egon
02-24-13, 10:34 AM
It's looks like the quality is way better than the old models, I almost want one 1confused1

3.Star
08-31-13, 07:50 PM
Hello Guys,
talking to Hornby two days ago, I was told that the Orange Aventadors are first on the production line, caused by demand. Delivery is sceduled for November. The Isis white will follow later on. There will be an estimated gap of four weeks for delivery for each colour. Set my nickles on the white one, but no desperation at all....still there is enough in the shelves and the white version won't be continued in 2014.

Cheers
Michael

CitroenTA
09-01-13, 04:02 AM
I've made my order for a white one and it's ok to me if I get that in this year.

roymattblack
09-05-13, 01:10 PM
Spoke to Hornby UK today.
They still have Oct delivery for orange scheduled. (my choice)
I've paid in full already...
Can't wait.

superfly
10-10-13, 05:42 PM
Some sprue shots and build pics of the Aventador of Pocher's facebook page....the V-12 engine looks massive!...Looks like a raw assembly (no painted plastic) with some paint and heat stains...that engine is gonna look sweet. I wonder if they will sell just the engine?

Ton
10-10-13, 07:29 PM
http://www.scalemotorcars.com/forum/images/imported/2013/10/64.jpg

Ton
10-11-13, 11:44 AM
http://www.scalemotorcars.com/forum/images/imported/2013/10/65.jpg

Egon
10-11-13, 11:45 AM
To plastic, detailkit ? 1confused1 Huuuhm

Ton
10-11-13, 04:36 PM
No hard shell ....and all rather plastic. But a lot to detail gringrin

superfly
10-13-13, 11:21 AM
I'd rather that it didn't come painted at all....that way we can pick our own color.. I'm pretty sure there will be turned metal and photo-etch shocks,rotors and disc brakes from the aftermarket companies...perhaps DMC or Novitech Tornado body kits and wheels? The Mansory Carbonado would be insane!

Ton
10-14-13, 08:57 AM
http://www.scalemotorcars.com/forum/images/imported/2013/10/88.jpg

superfly
10-14-13, 04:39 PM
Man those panels gaps are tight!...Looks like some fine fitting parts!

Ton
10-15-13, 08:00 AM
http://www.scalemotorcars.com/forum/images/imported/2013/10/98.jpg

Ton
10-15-13, 06:08 PM
http://www.scalemotorcars.com/forum/images/imported/2013/10/101.jpg

Ton
10-18-13, 06:06 AM
The more I see , the less happier I get: the detailing is mediocre and the scale of the wheel suspension and the engine bars look rather heavy


http://www.scalemotorcars.com/forum/images/imported/2013/10/131.jpg

spinellid82
10-18-13, 09:46 AM
That is why Autograph exists. Give them a few months and you'll be able to build a really sweet Lamborgini.

superfly
10-18-13, 11:02 AM
Ton.... Can you post a pic of the real Aventador rolling chasis to compare?
I agree some details appear "soft"....But alot of this will be covered by the various body panels and engine covers/screens and bellypan.
I'm expecting that the aftermarket companies will address with turned metal, cast metal, resin and photo-etch...
I just hope that the price point for the upgrade set is not in the 4 digit price range...I mean this isn't a limited number of cars.
Also these parts need to be painted...

Ton
10-18-13, 11:36 AM
That is why Autograph exists. Give them a few months and you'll be able to build a really sweet Lamborgini.

Lets say a couple of years? gringrin But there will definitely come aftermarket products.

Ton
10-18-13, 11:40 AM
Ton.... Can you post a pic of the real Aventador rolling chasis to compare?
I agree some details appear "soft"....But alot of this will be covered by the various body panels and engine covers/screens and bellypan.
I'm expecting that the aftermarket companies will address with turned metal, cast metal, resin and photo-etch...
I just hope that the price point for the upgrade set is not in the 4 digit price range...I mean this isn't a limited number of cars.
Also these parts need to be painted...

44 minutes and 57 seconds to compare and to make screenshots gringrin


http://youtu.be/AT7MaQT7Pfs

3.Star
10-18-13, 10:35 PM
Well Gentlemen, time to roll up our sleeves. There is a very interesting scratchbuilt 1/10 Aventador by an Italian fellow in the net posted on www.lambopower.com. Registration is needed to see the contents, but useful, 'cause there is quite a lot of helpful reference and I didn't expect the guys owning the real thing so helpful.


Cheers
Michael

Slyy77
10-19-13, 03:28 AM
Great video with a lot of info. The only downside for me was spending the six hours in YouTube purgatory. I always get stuck watching "just one more ".

Ton
10-19-13, 05:06 AM
Great video with a lot of info. The only downside for me was spending the six hours in YouTube purgatory. I always get stuck watching "just one more ".

gringringringrin

superfly
10-19-13, 09:48 AM
Yes I know...I've watched the Aventador, Maclaren and the Aston Martin build....those facilities are a sight to behold.

Ton
10-22-13, 07:49 AM
http://www.scalemotorcars.com/forum/images/imported/2013/10/175.jpg

spinellid82
10-22-13, 11:56 AM
Seems to be going together fairly well so I am guessing that some aspects of a Pocher kit have improved. I know nothing about this vehilce in real life except for what I learned in the video so the detail lokks to be ok to me for a box stock build. I can only imagine what this kit plus another $1k to Autograph would produce!

superfly
10-22-13, 09:24 PM
I hope is not $1K for an upgrade set...this kit doesn't appear to be a limited run so I hope the upgrade sets reflect that....besides most of the engine,transmission, cooling system, exhaust system and front suspension..is all hidden.... Would we be paying for stuff that will never be seen? I wouldn't mind upgrading the carbon disc brakes and the rear suspension...maybe different wheels and brake calipers.

spinellid82
10-23-13, 01:34 AM
I am in the beginning of a scratch built 1:4 scale Caterham Super 7. The engine will be complete with internals, as will the transmission and possibly the differential. None of this will be seen after final assembly, but I'll know it's there.

superfly
10-23-13, 02:47 AM
I am in the beginning of a scratch built 1:4 scale Caterham Super 7. The engine will be complete with internals, as will the transmission and possibly the differential. None of this will be seen after final assembly, but I'll know it's there.

It's all up to the builder..It is your model and its up to you to decide how deep you want to go. Scratch building parts will always cost less than upgrade sets that are produced. I could buy my own machining tools for less than cost of some transkits sold in the market and have these tools for life. 3D printing is really coming to play in the modelling world...so casting resin parts from these are quick and easy...there is really no need to hand machine parts for production upgrades and charge the end-user big bucks.
I hope this kit only requires a few upgrades to enhance the model...and not need major overhaulling with said transkits.

spinellid82
10-23-13, 03:00 AM
Could be any level of detail or several different kits to cater to individual builders. Myself, I love the details, even if they are invisible after the build is finished. As far as scratch building "always costing less", by the time I am done with this 7 I will have been able to build the Aventador and Suprofile with full transkits for each and the Paul Koo CD for the Suprofile! It aint cheap but it is healthier then hanging out in a bar!



Damn! I forgot to go to the liquor store! he1he

Ton
10-24-13, 02:50 PM
http://www.scalemotorcars.com/forum/images/imported/2013/10/1.png

Ton
10-25-13, 08:31 AM
http://www.scalemotorcars.com/forum/images/imported/2013/10/217.jpg

spinellid82
10-25-13, 01:12 PM
That looks like a hold your breath and pray type of procedure to me!

Ton
10-25-13, 04:59 PM
You need strong fingers.....and leave you neck-tie off!

Ton
11-04-13, 03:52 AM
http://www.scalemotorcars.com/forum/images/imported/2013/11/9.jpg

superfly
11-04-13, 08:45 AM
I wish they'd show some close ups of the sprues, metal parts, photo-etch, decals and other materials included in this kit...Or show the overall build next to rulers so we can get a sense of how big the car is. These teasers are getting tedious.

roymattblack
11-06-13, 04:31 AM
Your wish is my command.....

Roy.

http://www.scalemotorcars.com/forum/images/imported/2013/11/20.jpg

superfly
11-06-13, 08:55 AM
Yes! First shipment of white Aventadors are on the boat......looks like Christmas will be early!Thanks Roy...I was hoping to see some close ups of the parts...its hard to see the details in that layout.I don't see much in a way of textiles....looks like floor mats only?...perhaps seatbelt material?...I think the seats are plastic which you paint to simulate leather or suede....Also looks like weather stripping around the doors and lids are provided...which is usually ignored on most models.

bart
11-06-13, 11:03 PM
Looks like a simple kit to me without too much of a challenge (for a lot of money).

superfly
11-07-13, 03:17 PM
Isn't that a good thing?.....throw a transkit in there and it will get pretty involved.

bart
11-07-13, 11:26 PM
And pretty expensive !

sjordan
11-08-13, 01:15 PM
You might check with Marvin at modelmotorcars.com to see if they're planning any aftermarket products.

Pocher Alfa

A (http://www.modelmotorcars.com/html/store/lamborghini/store_lamborghini.htm)lso, you can contact pocher.com for further info. From their site:

"In keeping with the Pocher tradition the car body of the 13 lbs model is made of premium metal die-cast and comes ready painted. The kit is easy to build and can be assembled for both left-hand and right-hand drive. The 1:8 sportster kit consists of more than 600 parts made of am assortment of materials including metal, rubber, textiles and premium quality plastic. Many parts are simply screwed. Of course steering, suspension and spoiler mechanism are functional with doors and hatches being capable of being opened."

roymattblack
11-09-13, 10:55 AM
Latest from Hornby UK, is December delivery..... No date though.
Hope it doesn't get pushed back again. Original quoted delivery was October......

Roy.

superfly
11-14-13, 04:13 PM
Yes your right...they are holding back the white kits and shipping together with some of the orange kits...Boo

superfly
11-14-13, 05:08 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tHbPso71OXs


New video Pocher Aventador

Is it me...Or does she look like she's riding a bit high and the rear wheel looks a little forward?
I hope these can be adjusted.

roymattblack
11-15-13, 04:35 AM
I also noticed the guy opening the poor pulls it all the way up.
On the original video in January, the door is clicked downwards and released. It then opens slowly all by itself.
Hope that hasn't changed.

Roy.

superfly
11-15-13, 09:51 AM
Roy...I totally agree...The video is a bit amateurish...It never really focuses in some shots...and really short...I hope the doors and lids open with out assistance...I almost wish I didn't come across this vid.

On another note...go the the Pocher Aventador facebook page...picture of the boxed kit....beautiful
and huge...its the size of a microwave...How am I gonna sneak this in the house withoutthe wifey seeing?

1hotrod1

Grandad
11-19-13, 10:02 AM
I understand that they are now arriving!!Has anyone seen inside the box?What is the quality of the components like? Is it like the old Pocher quality!! or is it the quality good?Grandad

superfly
11-20-13, 09:33 PM
Go to Pocher's Aventador facebook page....plenty of pics. I dont understand why anyone would think the quality is poor....the moulds for this kit were made last year...with todays technology ..this is a new kit...new tooling...not a re-pop from moulds made in the 70's.
I would say that the quality is excellent..the panel gaps are tight...better than DeAgostini's 1/10 Enzo Ferrari (engine bonnet doesn't sit flush)

Ton
11-21-13, 08:56 AM
I dont understand why anyone would think the quality is poor....

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For me this is "Burago" quality and detailing

superfly
11-21-13, 09:28 AM
I agree some parts which... will never be seen once put together is simplfied but that doesn't mean its poor fit. Tamiya...the bench mark to all plastic models will still simplfy areas in their 2013 kits..New 1/32 Corsair comes to mind...which i have in my stash. There is aftermarket parts to address its issues...as will this kit...I can see the coilovers could be done in real machined aluminum..aswell as disc brakes etc. But Pocher is playing safe by making affordable and keeping cost down...leaving it to aftermarket to those who are willing to spend $$ to take it up a notch. If you chose to build straight out of the box...you have to sand, prime, paint and seal all the plastic parts to bring realisim to them just like any other plastic model car. I have Aoshima and Fujimi Aventador 1/24 scale kits....Aoshima is amazing but Fujimi dropped the ball in terms for shape and scale...way off....Auto-art Aventadors have their share of problems too....chipped paint, skewed logos and badges, missing rear camera, Lamborghini script placement...there an upgrade set for it too....In any case this new Pocher is still a huge improvement to their Porsche and Testarossa kits of yesteryear.And the missing top cover of the trans-axle is included if you look at the sprue pics...The picture of the Aventador's rear end shot is missing the 3rd brake light...which I'm sure is included in the kit aswell. If you look at this way....you have control over the quality of your kit...unlike a typical diecast...where its only as good as the worker who built it..who build hundreds of cars day in and day out..Overall im pretty stoked about this kit....I know there are areas that can use super detailling and i will probably buy every upgrade set available...but it still requires skilled hands to make a great kit into a spectacular car...I'm asking a company HGW... about their laser cut micro-textiles used for 1/24 seatbelts if they can scale up to 1/8...and also floormats with lambo logos...they do photo-etch as well.Im also looking to get luggage with designer logos Lv. for the trunk....And if your still not happy.....Amalgam has a 1/8 scale Lamborghini Aventador fully built with display base....for.........$6000.00 plus shipping.....and ONLY the driver and passenger doors open.....

Ton
11-21-13, 01:16 PM
Hi Superfly

You are right that this model could be a perfect model when the aftermarket or a skillful builder give their attention to the model. And if you are a Lambo lover like you are it is the ultimate and I am sure that you will love it!
I am simply judging the model as a new product. Considering the current state of production technics (e.g. see the CMC 1:18) which guarantee a high level of detailing than I am disappointed. Based on the pictures and the movie I see that they cut corners with the detailing. IMO not necessary because with a little bit of effort you can also produce certain parts instead of molding them.
I am waiting for the first reviews to see if "this new Pocher -in any case- will be a huge improvement to their Porsche and Testarossa kits of yesteryear" gringrin

superfly
11-21-13, 01:36 PM
Ton I see CMC products....but you have decide if you are a collector of rare cars or a model builder of cars produced in high numbers..Collector cars are always gonna be more refined..the price and the low numbers reflect that. I look at Pocher as a large scale model kit.I dont look at it as a collector art piece which retains value. Sure its $800....but its alot of metal and plastic...I paid that much for a 1/350 scale boat.I like that I will build this car myself and not pay someone hundreds of dollars to build for me...to me thats more valuable...And when I die...who cares if its worthless...When this kit finally arrives. Im sure it will be examined with a microscope....but I'm sure it will still look good next to a $6000.00 collector car sitting in adisplay shelf

Ton
11-21-13, 03:11 PM
I have several CMC models....not to collect but just to look at the sheer detail of the car. If CMC starts with kits ....than I am an addict! gringrin But in two months we know more!

DRZOOM68
12-07-13, 06:33 PM
Hey guys, I preordered the orange Aventador and received a message from my dealer that the stock is coming in on Tuesday 10 december.
After delivering the preorders they still have limited stock in supply. If you did not preordered one and want one for Christmas check the following link 1/8 Pocher Lamborghini Aventador LP 700-4 | pocher lamborghini (http://www.modelbouwkrikke.nl/plastic-bouwdozen/contents/nl/p36146_Pocher_Lamborghine.html)

Guiddy
12-07-13, 06:37 PM
Cool not long to wait for you!

I'm just waiting on Hornby.com getting in touch to say they have stock, placed a deposit on a white one.

Timing should just be right to finish my 1/8 McLaren MP 4-23 in time to start a new project!

Jetjock
12-08-13, 07:39 AM
Same here, pre-ordered a white one and just got the message that they would be shipped distributed this week. can't wait to look inside the box.

TK Chan
12-09-13, 09:35 AM
Me too. I've paid for an orange one and now waiting for the delivery. Will be eager to see what is the quality inside the box.

STARK
12-11-13, 12:40 AM
Received this puppy today. Its freaking huge!! Can't wait to start assembling it. 1yeah1

http://s0.uploads.im/tEi4u.jpg

STARK
12-11-13, 12:59 AM
Unboxed it and all ready to assemble!

http://s0.uploads.im/7yfmY.jpg

Ton
12-11-13, 04:36 AM
Congratulations.....New Zealand of all places gringrin is it shipped from China?

STARK
12-11-13, 05:38 AM
Congratulations.....New Zealand of all places gringrin is it shipped from China?Hong Kong :) shipped on the 9th from there and received it today. Was supposed to get it yesterday but was not at home when the delivery was attempted.

DRZOOM68
12-11-13, 07:59 AM
Yes, just picked the large box up from my dealer. He has still 3 for sale, the only 3 left in the Netherlands.gringrin

Cobra 56
12-11-13, 10:52 AM
Wauu! that was fast shipping from Hong Kong1clap1. I live in Denmark my dealer in Germany Pocher 1/8 model kit Lamborghini Aventador HK100 Orange Argos, 599,00 (http://shop.autographmodel.com/Pocher-1-8-model-kit-Lamborghini-Aventador-HK100-Orange-Argos)

got it yesterday, but has not shipped it yet. The package weights about 14,5 kilos, the car itself finished about 7 kilos. Must be wery well packaged. I hope i will get mine before the weekend, but with the slow postservice in Germany, it looks like it´s, to mutch to hope on. Congratulations to the Lucky one of you, that have got the model allready.

Egon
12-11-13, 11:43 AM
Okay Guys let hear about the quality of the kit. 1what1 or 1no1
Hej Arne hvor er du, Kastrup her.

Cobra 56
12-11-13, 01:23 PM
1hey1Egon
I live in Gråsten, best known from the "Gråsten Apple - Gråsten Slot - the summer residendence of our queen , about 15 km away1ideal1 from the Danish German border.

STARK
12-11-13, 06:12 PM
Wauu! that was fast shipping from Hong Kong1clap1. I live in Denmark my dealer in Germany Pocher 1/8 model kit Lamborghini Aventador HK100 Orange Argos, 599,00 (http://shop.autographmodel.com/Pocher-1-8-model-kit-Lamborghini-Aventador-HK100-Orange-Argos)

got it yesterday, but has not shipped it yet. The package weights about 14,5 kilos, the car itself finished about 7 kilos. Must be wery well packaged. I hope i will get mine before the weekend, but with the slow postservice in Germany, it looks like it´s, to mutch to hope on. Congratulations to the Lucky one of you, that have got the model allready.

I previously had pre-ordered from 'modellauto18.de' and last week got an email from them saying it is arriving next week and should be ready to ship. EU524,99 + Shipping EU45,00. I was told that it is via DHL local German Post and it will take 8-10 working days to arrive in NZ. Given this scenario it would have been pretty much a no show before Christmas and probably would have got delayed even further with the obvious overload during this time of the year. I asked them to upgrade to DHL Express and was willing to pay the difference for shipping. But they did not agree to do so.

Anyways desperate times call for desperate measures so quickly searched eBay and came across this seller in HK who already had these in stock and he shipped it immediately once I paid him off. Wise decision which was totally worth it.

As for the quality of the kit, I am pretty happy. It is solid, heavy and well made. I know it is a model kit and will consists majority of plastic parts but not sure about the hard plastic tyres. It would have been much better if they were made of firm rubber instead.

Anyways getting back to assembling it. Hopefully it should be done in a weeks time.

Jetjock
12-11-13, 06:24 PM
Received mine yesterday by DHL, number 648. Unpacking tomorrow

superfly
12-11-13, 07:14 PM
I thought the tires looked a little.....plastic from the videos....Prehaps resin replacements would be better...I know some people dislike rubber tires as well....Cast resin could be an affordable solution.

Stark and Jetjock....please post as many pics as you can!..

Jetjock
12-12-13, 07:16 AM
Will start mine in a couple of days, no time at the moment. Stark has a nice topic running.

carlitosracing
12-12-13, 07:37 AM
Hi Stark,

I´ve already assembled the tyres and have found out that they are actually made of rubber. According to the instructions it is necessary to heat the tyres with a hair dryer for some minutes before assembling them on the rims ( otherwise it is impossible). Once warm, they are much softer and can be easily assembled. I guess they need to be very rigid to in order to support 7,5 kg! and not get flat.

I received my Bianco Isis some days ago and must say that it´s a huge improvement over the last Pocher F40 I assembled years ago. Nothing to do.

superfly
12-12-13, 08:22 AM
Thats a relief on the tires!....How is the finish on the Bianco Isis (paint)?...Is the paint quality?.deep shine?Or does it need to be buffed to get the deep shine?Any areas that you would like to see enhanced with aftermarket parts??

carlitosracing
12-12-13, 09:12 AM
I would say that the quality of the paint is pretty good and yes, deep shine. I will spray some engine parts and the exhaust pipes and silencer to have a more real look.

As after market parts, I may like to have metallic brake discs, but the real ones are actually "carbo-ceramic". Some parts could be enhanced (working transmission, leather seats, etc.), but, to me, most of them are more than enough. All I´ll do is to spray some of them. It could be better (like Amalgam), but by what I´ve paid, I´m really happy with the kit !!!gringrin

SVtrackhead
12-12-13, 10:01 AM
As after market parts, I may like to have metallic brake discs, but the real ones are actually "carbo-ceramic".I will experiment with an abraded finish on some spare metal brake discs, and also polished "gunmetal" paint to see which will best achieve the real finish shown below.
http://www.scaleautoworks.com/LamborghiniAventadorphotos 571.jpg

STARK
12-12-13, 03:49 PM
Will start mine in a couple of days, no time at the moment. Stark has a nice topic running.

Thanks and goodluck with the build. 1thumbup1

STARK
12-12-13, 03:51 PM
Hi Stark,

I´ve already assembled the tyres and have found out that they are actually made of rubber. According to the instructions it is necessary to heat the tyres with a hair dryer for some minutes before assembling them on the rims ( otherwise it is impossible). Once warm, they are much softer and can be easily assembled. I guess they need to be very rigid to in order to support 7,5 kg! and not get flat.

I received my Bianco Isis some days ago and must say that it´s a huge improvement over the last Pocher F40 I assembled years ago. Nothing to do.

Thanks for the information mate. I haven't started with the tyres yet so it is a relief to know that they are made of rubber. It is weird how they feel so plastic at the moment. But as you said heat does the trick so looking forward to the build. Cheers

superfly
12-12-13, 04:02 PM
Do the rims come with separate wheel lugs and air valves....or are they moulded in?

STARK
12-12-13, 04:18 PM
Do the rims come with separate wheel lugs and air valves....or are they moulded in?Yes they are moulded in. Check the pics below. Hope this helps.

superfly
12-12-13, 04:52 PM
Thanks Stark!....Darn...it would've been a nice touch to see actual wheel lugs...but I guess this helps keeps costs down.

spinellid82
12-12-13, 04:59 PM
It's a farily easy fix but I would think that for this kind of dough one wouldn't need to fix something so basic...IMHO

STARK
12-12-13, 06:12 PM
Thanks Stark!....Darn...it would've been a nice touch to see actual wheel lugs...but I guess this helps keeps costs down.

You're welcome. I am planning on getting custom wheels... souped-up 1yeah1

superfly
12-12-13, 08:04 PM
There are built samples of the white and orange Aventadors including the display case on Lemke facebook page.

Looks like a rush job....some panel gaps need adjusting, parts not sanded or painted.

Defenitely need to take your time on this...

Noddy
12-12-13, 08:35 PM
The maker of the 1/10 scale scratch-built Gallardo and other masterpieces says that he is expecting his kit tomorrow and is already at work on a transkit. He mentioned that he is considering a roadster conversion and rims depending on the cost of 3D printing.
If you are not familiar with his work his name is Tommaso Iuele and his site is http://tommasoiuele.wordpress.com/

superfly
12-12-13, 09:40 PM
Ooo!...that would be sic indeed!....looks like a lot of possibilties for the kit already!...perhaps a DMC, Mansory, Novitech transkit???.......As long as it not a Chris Brown custom paint job.

Guiddy
12-13-13, 05:58 AM
I am interested in how much of the monocoque can be seen on the finished model?
Some great pictures on the net of the Pebble beach concourse frame...Shows it's a matt carbon....

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carlitosracing
12-13-13, 08:05 AM
For those of you who are still eagerly awaiting your kit....

http://tony-model-world.blogspot.tw/2013/12/pocher-18-lp-700-4.html

I (http://tony-model-world.blogspot.tw/2013/12/pocher-18-lp-700-4.html)t´s a detailed unboxing.

You may not want to look before... X´mas he1he.

I don´t understand a word of what this guy wrote, but there is no need of it either. Photos speak by themselves.

Cobra 56
12-13-13, 08:07 AM
Maybe this Pictures will help. Great pics from Pebble Beach.

new Pocher Lamborghini Aventador LP 700-4 1/8 scale kit (http://www.scaleautoworks.com/PocherLamboKit.html)

superfly
12-13-13, 09:56 AM
Thanks Carlito...I was waiting to see some close ups...what is your opinion on the paint finish?
I like how each sprue is organized...this helps speed up sub-assemblies....some kits have their parts all over the place and you need a map to gather the parts...I don't see any flash on any of the parts...a couple of ejection pin marks...but those might be in hidden areas.. I love how the "glass" is already painted and has the "Lamborghini" markings on them.
From what I've learned...there are no call-outs for paint on the instruction booklet...so a bit of research and reference photos are needed for those who want their painted.
The "stitching" on the seats are little big in terms of scale...maybe after primer and paint it won't look too bad.

3.Star
12-13-13, 10:06 AM
Picked mine up this morning at the Post office and had a short glance at some of the parts. The paintjob is surprisingly fair made.
So I am building this first one almost straight oob for a customer, just doing some minor modifications in detailing. Some touch of paint and fitting the model will do the job. Gives the oppurtunity to get familiar with the kit, awaiting another white and a arancia argos, soon.

Cheers
Michael

Noddy
12-13-13, 11:32 AM
For those of you who are still eagerly awaiting your kit....

http://tony-model-world.blogspot.tw/2013/12/pocher-18-lp-700-4.html

I (http://tony-model-world.blogspot.tw/2013/12/pocher-18-lp-700-4.html)t´s a detailed unboxing.

You may not want to look before... X´mas he1he.

I don´t understand a word of what this guy wrote, but there is no need of it either. Photos speak by themselves.

If you put that link into Google Chrome it will ask you if you would like the page translated. It's not perfect but it is far better than me trying to decipher Chinese.
There are translation plugins available for most other browsers also.

Noddy
12-13-13, 11:40 AM
Ooo!...that would be sic indeed!....looks like a lot of possibilties for the kit already!...perhaps a DMC, Mansory, Novitech transkit???.......As long as it not a Chris Brown custom paint job.

Have to be a brave soul to go hacking the roof off a €649 model!

roymattblack
12-13-13, 02:02 PM
I know the translation might be dodgy, but is he correct - the doors are plastic????!!!!!!

Roy.

Ton
12-13-13, 02:09 PM
I know the translation might be dodgy, but is he correct - the doors are plastic????!!!!!!

Roy.

My google translation gave the same outcome and it mentions also another plastic body parts. I hope the parts are painted.

superfly
12-13-13, 02:51 PM
Yes ..I would image the body panels are plastic...they are on sprues....and the doors being plastic because perhaps metal door would be too heavy for the actuators?

SVtrackhead
12-13-13, 03:15 PM
Looking at the photos there are body trim pieces on sprues, but the major panels appear to be metal.

STARK
12-13-13, 04:50 PM
I know the translation might be dodgy, but is he correct - the doors are plastic????!!!!!!

Roy.

Yes the doors are plastic. It is for the soft opening, the speed of which you can adjust by adding or removing weights.

carlitosracing
12-13-13, 04:54 PM
The interior panels of the doors are plastic, but the doors are metal, and rather heavy, I would say!. Moreover, 4 pieces of metal ballast are provided to add some more weight to the doors in orther to set the lifting speed to your taste.

carlitosracing
12-13-13, 05:04 PM
Sorry stark. hadn't seen your reply

Ton
12-13-13, 05:26 PM
Yes the doors are plastic


The interior panels of the doors are plastic, but the doors are metal.

??? different production runs

kompressor
12-13-13, 05:56 PM
Got mine today (white one)- was proud like the little boy that never could afford one of classic pochers when they where standing in the hobby shop - ages ago. Should I keep it sealed for ever? Or should I unpack it under the x-mas tree and start building like i would have done as a boy. Probably I'll get another one next and keep this on the shelf - whats your opinion?

Ton
12-13-13, 07:02 PM
build it! gringrin

Noddy
12-13-13, 07:22 PM
Build it!
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then take it apart and re-do it when the transkit(s) come out! (just be cautious with the glue the first time around) he1he

Noddy
12-13-13, 07:35 PM
Anyone want to take a wager on what color they do next? The white one will not be made again. Only the orange continues in the next run.

PS: Are some sellers on crack? There is a Hong Kong seller on Feebay wanting US$1269 + US$350 shipping to the USA. 1rolling1

SVtrackhead
12-14-13, 12:40 AM
yes: build it, take it apart, then build it better again with a transkit!

tommaso_iuele
12-16-13, 05:51 AM
Hi Noddy
tks you for the compliments.
I have updated my wordpress site Tommaso Iuele | Model maker (http://tommasoiuele.wordpress.com/) with the lamborghini Aventador scale 1:10 with opening roof from scratch. It took me 1 year to finish.
Regarding the Pocher I have recieved the package 2 days ago and it looks like it needs quite a few detailing. I was thinking of getting new rims and open roof (roadster version) all in 3d, Carbon frame, new brake calipers... the ones I created in scale 1:10 are much better more detailed. For the tires I have to work on that and figure out the best way to make them look real. The dashboard needs some real retouch, I created mine with photoecth parts (check my site). For the final colour I was thinking purple matt or matt pearl white... will see. I'm working on the Reventon scale 1:10 with al opening parts door and bonett ...almost done ::)) pretty soon will be published on my site and on another collectors site. The pocher ferrari testarossa was don 2 years ago and published on the diecast magazine and sold to a collector in Dubai. Couple of collectors asked me to build the same for them but time is always a problem. The final model was almost 15 kilos pretty heavy.
All the best Tommaso1hey1

superfly
12-16-13, 09:01 AM
Tommaso...I'm definately interested in your plans for the Aventador....If you decide to produce the transkit..please put me on the "list".

tommaso_iuele
12-16-13, 09:32 AM
OK I WILL.
TKS... ALREADY 4 MEMBERS ARE IN THE LIST1hey1

Cobra 56
12-16-13, 01:31 PM
gringrinRegarding the Pocher I have recieved the package 2 gays ago. You mean 2 days ago.

tommaso_iuele
12-16-13, 03:34 PM
ha...ha..ha... minor typo.. ok fixed
he1he

superfly
12-16-13, 04:13 PM
Tommaso....where in Canada are you? I'm from Ontario

tommaso_iuele
12-17-13, 02:07 AM
Hi I'm from Toronto, but currently working in Europe (Creative Director advertising)

superfly
12-17-13, 10:03 AM
I'm 1/2 hour from Toronto!...If your ever back in town....I love to see your 1/10 scale masterpieces!...perhaps learn some techniques?

tommaso_iuele
12-18-13, 06:04 AM
I would love to come back... I miss my country so much... will see what happens here in italy (terrible goverment)

spinellid82
12-18-13, 12:19 PM
Be glad that you aren't there under Benito Mussolini!

AirB
12-18-13, 03:52 PM
I just pick up mine (an orange) today, i find it a little pity that the body is a mix of metal and plastic.
Much space for super detailing.

superfly
12-18-13, 11:30 PM
Regarding the front and rear differentials missing top halves....looking at the ammended instruction manual...I can see how the engine block practically sits right on the rear diff....it is very tight...and the missing top half is covered by the engine block...looking from under...... the detail is there....once the belly pan is in...you can't see any of this.....once the engine cover is on...you will not see anything at all...from above or below.

The front diff... is covered by the cockpit tunnel and the battery tray,and battery,,,, plus the front bonnet compartment and the surrounding cover pieces.. the belly pan also covers this area except for the access hole....


I'm cool with the missing top halves of the diff's!
Unless you want to display your Aventador as a rolling chasis?

DRZOOM68
12-19-13, 11:01 AM
Had some time to begin with the kit. I am detailing the interior. The carpet is in.

24915

Egon
12-20-13, 02:36 PM
It looks like Pocher Facebook can't take the criticism, they have cloused for comment or maby just from me, they got a Not Like on there FB from me, that now is removed from FB, on there bad manual and not providing info about what glue to use etc.
Im glad that I didn't order one, prices are dropping already.
This is the¨ Not Like ¨ they removed.

superfly
12-20-13, 03:36 PM
It's a bit harsh to judge a kit you don't have in front of you...Instruction manual has a few minor mistakes that can be fixed or prevented if you take your time and test fit....I test fit even Tamiya kits...and the set the standard.

Experienced model builders know which adhesives are for plastic..metal...resin..decal..and clear parts....this can all be found on any scale model forum...tips and techniques section.

This is a Model kit...needed to treated like any unassembled..unpainted or glued kit....Parts should be washed and cleaned up...seamlines sanded...painted and weathered and sealed...if you don't..you will get a kit thats just ok.

I think people expected this to be a "shake it and its built" kit.

If your are not a model builder..I recommend having it built by someone who can.

Personally I think its well engineered and the level of detail is amazing....Every kit no matter how good or expensive all have shortcomings...
Amalgan's Aventador is $6000...fully built...its beautiful.....but only the doors work...

Your not going to buy this beautiful kit ...because the seatbelts were routed incorrectly? and the exhaust piping and some metal scripts are switched?...I can see if the doors malfunction..or the shocks break under the weight...or worse...the proportion is wrong or out of scale.

Giving Pocher the "unlike" doesn't do them and us any good....they are trying to get back in the game...and they have taken measures to improve their product.
You got to give them a little margin for error....good feed back will help improve their product more...but kit-bashing could make them say "forget it i'm done"....then we all lose.
I'd like to see more stuff from Pocher!

Let some who has the kit...fully built..give their opinion on this kit

SVtrackhead
12-20-13, 03:51 PM
It looks like Pocher Facebook can't take the criticism, they have cloused for comment or maby just from me, they got a Not Like on there FB from me, that now is removed from FB, on there bad manual and not providing info about what glue to use etc.
Im glad that I didn't order one, prices are dropping already.
This is the¨ Not Like ¨ they removed.Egon, while your criticism may be valid, your attitude is not. You are coming off as someone who enjoys complaining about something you never intended to buy. Criticism to be helpful and encourage a solution is something most companies and individuals welcome. Simple complaining accomplishes nothing, and most people or companies will just turn away.

Pocher kits have always had a limited appeal, and should never be confused with a Tamiya kit. There are those of us that enjoyed the size and the challenge of the older kits in spite of the well-documented problems. We are also thrilled and amazed that a modern company would make such a big investment to revive the brand. This new kit is obviously not perfect, but is also obviously an improvement over the previous Ferrari kits. It makes me happy. If it doesn't make you happy you should simply look elsewhere for your next modeling project.

roymattblack
12-20-13, 03:59 PM
Sorry but ditto the above.

How can anyone complain about something they have no actual evidence or experience of, or reference to?

It's like me saying "I hate Beef - I've never tried it, but I hate beef......."

I've built the old Pochers, and am currently building the Rolls Phantom Torpedo.
Now THAT has issues!!!!!
But I'm lovin' it!

Roy. (Aventador in the stash for the future)

superfly
12-20-13, 04:11 PM
Brady...Come on with our kits already!!!!! LOL I'm just kidding...I'm actually glad that i don't have the kit yet.....
This gives me time to study the instruction booklet online...make notes and plan painting sequences...besides its too cold to airbush in the garage anyways....

SVtrackhead
12-20-13, 05:01 PM
Brady...Come on with our kits already!!!!! LOL I'm just kidding...I'm actually glad that i don't have the kit yet.....
This gives me time to study the instruction booklet online...make notes and plan painting sequences...besides its too cold to airbush in the garage anyways....You know I've been trying, at least they are in the right country now. They were sent out from WA by truck yesterday, but delivery by Christmas is now unlikely. 1boho1

3.Star
12-20-13, 05:03 PM
Just to fix it to a point...there is a new kit in town by a well known brand. Not that cheep, but not too expensive. Like one of my buddies telling me, it is quite a pleasure how it fits together. (He is doing this one almost right oob). I agree, that there will be some or all things to be superdetailed...It's up to the builders opinion. Got the third one of them kits today and dared to unpack one. Looking fine to me, there will be points to improve it. I am pretty sure, there is a hell of a lot to make it look better, but the model is, as it is, quite fine and well done. For years, we Large scale guys were asking for new things coming along. For myself, I'd rather preferred a more classic car, but wishes and marketing business aren't walking the same path.

So come on and show, what real SMC guys can do with it.

Cheers

Michael

superfly
12-20-13, 05:09 PM
I usually get better gifts...after Christmas anyways....its the ones I get for myself. Ha

DRZOOM68
12-20-13, 05:13 PM
In the past I build the Pocher Alfa 2300 model. It had a lot of more parts then the Aventador but I must say that the new Aventador is a better quality kit. The first original kits had more flaws in the parts and instructions.
A kit of this proportion and price is always a good basis and it becomes a great collector model when you paint it and add details.

Ton
12-20-13, 06:04 PM
For the builders who want some more than building OOB.......some ideas

http://www.scalemotorcars.com/forum/images/imported/2013/12/1.jpg?itok=t70q94kn

roymattblack
12-20-13, 06:28 PM
I've got the Lambo in my stash now, but I too would have preferred a classic - C or D Type Jaguar, Aston DBR1, Maserati Birdcage, Ferrari 250 GTO....... etc....

OK..... I've seen it said that the makers these days look at 'mass market appeal'.

My response? - Cobblers.

Pocher kits - in fact, ANY kit costing £500 ISN'T mass market, or aimed at today's 'yoof'.
These types of kits are mainly bought be experienced modellers with this kind of cash to spare - and in the main, they WOULD prefer a classic.

Am I wrong????

Roy.

superfly
12-20-13, 06:48 PM
I was toying with a tribute to Mad Max's Ford Falcon Interceptor.Paint the Aventador black with flat black ....right-side drive....gold tinted headlight coversMFP star and shield logos on the sides....and the blue police light.

Egon
12-20-13, 07:31 PM
I can tell you Guys that I have several Pocher kit here, I'm no novice, the point is that a company like Hornby with many many years of experience in modelbuilding, come up with something they should have payed more attention to in the detail and the manual before releasing it to the marked, that's what I read here on SMC and see.
Sorry Guys That's just my opinion on a very expensive kit.

Ton
12-20-13, 07:48 PM
Am I wrong????

I think it is an age issue. IMO most classic car lovers passed their 30/40's and they have the cash to buy and the time to build. I think Hornby is aiming now on a next generation of model builders which like the current cars better but I am not sure if they have the cash and time to build the model. But we will know it in about 2 years when a new model or the production stop is announced gringrin
But I am sure that if they should have released one of the models Roy mentions they should have had beter results!

Val33
12-20-13, 08:01 PM
I would also guess that finances play a part here. I have no inside knowledge, but I would imagine that Lamborghini, at the very least, will have supplied Pocher with complete digital drawings therefore reducing modelling times drastically compared to doing a classic car where no digital information exists.

Of course, Lamborghini may also have helped financially as such a high profile model from an iconic Italian brand name is rather good advertising.

Like others, I would have preferred a classic car, but I am happy to buy this to help send a message to Hornby that we as kit builders want them to succeed.

Val

superfly
12-20-13, 08:15 PM
When I was a kid...I bought models from a local hobby store...what ever was on the shelf is what you got..
The internet has changed the way I shop for models...truth be told...I know about stuff faster than my LHS..and I order most of the stuff online...I get models that don't get marketed here in Canada.
Pocher now can be sold worldwide...so sales will be stronger than in the past.
Perhaps Hornby should've not revived the brand name "Pocher"..its brought with them the negative critisim...and they only got this kit out 2 weeks...people are dismissing it..question the quality...etc etc
The real Aventador is really only 3 years old itself....I am amazed at the level of detail Pocher has captured with this car...I commend their efforts.

Slyy77
12-21-13, 01:42 AM
I have never owned a Pocher, and probably never will. Not because of any ''he said she said'' but simply the fact that could never afford one. I have trouble trying to justify spending $80.00 on a big kit much less spending $800.00 on one. If I could afford it, I would buy this kit. I'm hardly considered a youth, but I like the subject matter. The older cars don't appeal to me except for maybe the various Mercedes', and maybe a Bugatti but I enjoy the ''newer'' sports cars. Ferrari and Porsche have been done and now finally Lamborghini has been represented. The first time I heard the name Pocher was when the F40 came out. If I had the money, I would have bought it. And I'm sure I would have loved it. (Keep in mind that I had no internet, I had never heard of Pocher, and the model only cost around $350.00 if remember right). It was more than the Revell/Monogram kits but not by an obscene amount. I've learned since then thanks to the internet and forums like this how terrible the F40 was. If I could easily afford one today, I would still buy one. I would build it pretty much OOB, and I would be happy that I had a model in large scale of an legendary sports car sitting on my shelf. How it compares to all of the models in their line up makes very little difference to me, but that's just me.


Nothing is going to be perfect no matter what the price tag is. Some mistakes slipped though, humans do that now and then, especially when there is a rush to get a product on the market in time for a major holiday when there have already been release delays. But it sounds to me like they didn't waste any time in correcting what they could as soon as it was brought to their attention. Everybody, (company), makes mistakes. Not everybody steps up and tries to make it right.

And BTW, if anyone has one of those HORRIBLE abominations to the modeling world known as the F40 taking up valuable space collecting dust I would be willing to do the honorable thing and bravely throw myself on that grenade, sacrificing my self respect to relieve you of that terrible burden. I'll pay the postage.gringrin

Happy Holidays everyone, and to any that may not celebrate, HAPPY BUILDING!!!
Take care and stay safe,
Kevin.

tommaso_iuele
12-21-13, 04:40 AM
I agree with you superfly. This kit needs some extras for a final detailed model, but thats for modelers like me that are crazy about details. For beginners I believe it's worth what you paid for.

Jetjock
12-21-13, 05:18 AM
Detailing is fine, up to a certain level. But to start detailing items which will never be seen it's for me over the top. (you really need to find a hobby gringrin).
My Aventador will be mostly build OOB but will be standing next to a detailed TestaRossa (more open spaces - more detail).

Kevin, check Ebay once in a while for a build F40, take it apart and start all over. Sometimes you find a bargain.

SVtrackhead
12-21-13, 10:17 AM
....I've learned since then thanks to the internet and forums like this how terrible the F40 was.It was actually a really nice kit with just a few problems, the biggest being the fit of the door frames into the body [edit: and consequently the fit of the doors and operation of the latches]. The Testarossa had more problems, but was still fun to build. A common gripe was the lack of detail for the size, which was exactly the aim of Pocher so the kit would not intimidate the typical modeler who ran the other way when confronted with one of the "Classic" kits.
Nothing is going to be perfect no matter what the price tag is. Some mistakes slipped though, humans do that now and then, especially when there is a rush to get a product on the market in time for a major holiday when there have already been release delays. But it sounds to me like they didn't waste any time in correcting what they could as soon as it was brought to their attention. Everybody, (company), makes mistakes. Not everybody steps up and tries to make it right.1clap1


And BTW, if anyone has one of those HORRIBLE abominations to the modeling world known as the F40 taking up valuable space collecting dust I would be willing to do the honorable thing and bravely throw myself on that grenade, sacrificing my self respect to relieve you of that terrible burden. I'll pay the postage.gringrinPM me, I have a proposition for you.

superfly
12-21-13, 10:53 AM
Its seems to me that people use the F-40 as a bench mark to Pocher...I'm hoping the Aventador will raise that bench mark a little higher...

Slyy77
12-21-13, 12:03 PM
I grew up building AMT, Revel, Monogram, and MPC. Some had great quality, some had lesser quality but had the subject I wanted. When I built my first Tamiya, (oddly enough an F40), I was amazed at the quality and detail. They also cost more. I bought a few more of their kits and ended up getting a curbside. I didn't know that until I opened it. It didn't turn me off on buying Tamiya, I just learned that I needed to research things more and not expect everything from them to be the same.

Same can be said for Pocher I'm sure. Where you have museum pieces where you hand lace every spoke on one end of the spectrum and the lesser detailed, less daunting on the other. How many high end museum potential kits ended up partially built tucked away in the attic because the builder quit in frustration.

Something like this is an investment and it's great that the forums allow different views to be shared so someone can make an informed decision and not just hear ''it's great go get one'', or ''this sucks, stay away''.


Kevin.

superfly
12-23-13, 10:56 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vzJm4xCuV_E


Bianco Isis unboxing

tommaso_iuele
12-24-13, 02:33 AM
Hi Superfly... already drawing some photoecth parts...gringrin

CitroenTA
12-24-13, 04:11 AM
OK I WILL.
TKS... ALREADY 4 MEMBERS ARE IN THE LIST1hey1

Hello Tommaso can You put me to that list too? I will have my Lambo in January.
Merry Christmas.

superfly
12-24-13, 11:03 AM
Yes Tommaso...thank you.....I've had ideas dancing around my head...I can't wait to get my hands on this kit..I know there's lots of work to be done on this kit to make it a stunner!..Can't wait to see what you throw into the mix!

I'm thinking of stripping the body color and doing a complete re-paint in the spring/summer...i think I can do something about the missing tops of the front and rear diff's. Also the chassis frame work should be "boxed in".
I would really like to airbrush the heat staining on the exhaust pipes and muffler...the tremendous heat from the V-12...really discolors these components.
It would've also been nice to have the "start" button actually flip up and the keyless remote actually plug into the port...and a decal and clear lens for the navigation monitor......etc..etc etc...Haha

roymattblack
12-24-13, 12:37 PM
I would be interested in an etch detailing set if it sin't going to cost mega-bucks.
Of course, I understand it has to be viable to produce.
Please add me to your list of future customers.
My kit is in my stash and waiting.......

Roy.

tommaso_iuele
12-25-13, 03:46 AM
Merry Christmas to you and your family.. All the best.
Ps. Already in the list Tks
picpic

tommaso_iuele
12-25-13, 03:54 AM
Hi Superfly
most of the request you are going to follow are already done in my lamborghini aventador scale 1:10 in another blog of mine. The interior will have a opening box near the seats (I dont know how to call it), The dashboard will look real just like my previous model, lots of carbon interior, 600 screws on the frame body and engine, new embossed emblems, real photoech parts, new brakes, real rubber Tires + roof and bonett (will see 3d cost), all wiring redone... lots of work....
buy the way... Merry Christmas to everyone here.
T.
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tommaso_iuele
12-25-13, 03:55 AM
Hi CitroenTA (http://www.scalemotorcars.com/forum/members/citroenta.html)
Ok adding you in the lis too. All the best T.
1hey1

tommaso_iuele
12-25-13, 03:59 AM
I would be interested in an etch detailing set if it sin't going to cost mega-bucks.
Of course, I understand it has to be viable to produce.
Please add me to your list of future customers.
My kit is in my stash and waiting.......

Roy.

Hi roymattblack (http://www.scalemotorcars.com/forum/members/citroenta.html)
Ok adding you in the lis too. All the best T.
1hey1

Guiddy
12-27-13, 05:46 AM
I would also like a Transkit Tommaso. Put my name down.
Still deciding if I go white or orange!

superfly
12-27-13, 08:26 AM
Lamborghini Aventador scale 1/8 - Page 2 - Big Boyz - Model Cars Magazine Forum - Page 2 (http://www.modelcarsmag.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=83000&page=2)


Perhaps the orange???

tommaso_iuele
12-28-13, 04:28 AM
I would also like a Transkit Tommaso. Put my name down.
Still deciding if I go white or orange!

Hi tks. Added in the list...
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Guiddy
12-28-13, 06:34 AM
Lamborghini Aventador scale 1/8 - Page 2 - Big Boyz - Model Cars Magazine Forum - Page 2 (http://www.modelcarsmag.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=83000&page=2)

Great to see a finished one outside of the Pocher pics.
Awful tyres, how can they get it so wrong again! They were awful in the past, no change since!
Especially in this scale do you need good tyres!

Look at the type of information you should have on a tyre...
http://www.scalemotorcars.com/forum/images/imported/2013/12/105.jpg
The ones on my 1/8 McLaren are brilliant thanks to Kyosho

http://www.scalemotorcars.com/forum/images/imported/2013/12/106.jpg

3.Star
12-28-13, 07:41 AM
Sidewalls of the Pocher are looking quite high, compared to the prototype. Will take my caliper and check that.

Cheers
Michael

tunedbysaturnsl1
12-28-13, 01:46 PM
When I first stumbled upon the promo video of the Lamborghini off of Brady's website, I was in complete "Oh my gosh, must have it" mode. I've always been a fan of Lamborghini's since Countach and Diablo days. And the orange color and the opening of the doors are what sold it for me. I was absolutely thrilled when I saw that Pocher was coming out of hiatus.

I wouldn't mind a couple of muscle/classic cars such as the Impala, Chevelle, Nova, Galaxie, Charger, Mustang, Challenger, Thunderbird, etc. My father grew up with those car and passed the fondness of them onto me. I'll buy the Aventador kit regardless when money permits. Being unemployed at the time isn't much fun.

I remember how bad I felt year ago after stupidly selling my F40 and transkit because of financial hardships. What a mistake. But now, I have a white Testarossa Spyder and red F40 w/Autograph transkit (again) in my possession that I'll complete building in time. Though, I must confess, I'm on the look-out for a Porsche and the GT2 transkit as well.

Ton
12-28-13, 02:45 PM
I'm on the look-out for a Porsche and the GT2 transkit as well.

Documento senza titolo (http://www.collezioneingrao.com/In%20Vendita/In%20Vendita.htm)

tommaso_iuele
12-28-13, 06:22 PM
Lamborghini Aventador scale 1/8 - Page 2 - Big Boyz - Model Cars Magazine Forum - Page 2 (http://www.modelcarsmag.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=83000&page=2)


Perhaps the orange???

Hi
I have sent you my personal email. Tell your friends on the other site that they can get the original colour code at any bodyshop that has the facility to creat the colour. I get my colours done from a Bodyshop that matches the exact PPG colours and pay around 25 euros for 400ml

Regards T.

superfly
12-28-13, 06:30 PM
Tommaso..is 400ml enough to airbrush the Aventador?....I want to re-paint the car matt black? I emailed a distributor in Canada for Scale Finishes.

tommaso_iuele
12-28-13, 06:56 PM
no ...you will use 250ml the most it depends how and if you are good in airbrushing. The main thing is the base coat . If it's all even, than the colour desired requires 2 to the most 3 coats. I use PPG water base colours. They are easy to use and in the most cases if you go wrong all you have to do is wash it again. The problem is when you use the clear coat, you have be very careful. If you have a good air compressor than its not a problem. I love using the matte colours because on a big scale model 1/8 the model looks real. On the next project "pocher" I will try the wrap vinyl and see if it works in all the details. I will let you know. At this moment I'm still on vacation, warm place and will be returning Jannuary 6. As soon as I start I will be posting all the upgrades on this site , the ferrarichat, lambopower and my personal site and if I have time I will wright on the diecast magazine.

all the best superfly...
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superfly
12-29-13, 12:33 PM
Well...its a $14,000 upgrade on the real Aventador....so I'm "upgrading" my Aventador as well.....Nero Nemesis (Matt Black)..repaint....I just placed an order from Scale Finishes.Should look pretty stealthy with carbon fiber trim....and perhaps some new rims n' tires

tunedbysaturnsl1
12-29-13, 02:17 PM
Well...its a $14,000 upgrade on the real Aventador....so I'm "upgrading" my Aventador as well.....Nero Nemesis (Matt Black)..repaint....I just placed an order from Scale Finishes.Should look pretty stealthy with carbon fiber trim....and perhaps some new rims n' tires

That's for the info! Once my F40 is in the market to get painted after I'm done with prep-work, I'll place an order with them for some red to bring justice to it.

@tommaso, Add me to your list for that transkit detailing you're working on. Thanks by the way for providing painting info regarding the amount. Very big help!

@Ton Thanks for the link. Gorgeous Porsche that gentleman has. Sent him an e-mail regarding it.
(http://www.scalemotorcars.com/forum/members/tommaso_iuele.html)
(http://www.scalemotorcars.com/forum/members/tommaso_iuele.html)

tommaso_iuele
12-30-13, 05:24 AM
@tommaso, Add me to your list for that transkit detailing you're working on. Thanks by the way for providing painting info regarding the amount. Very big help!



(http://www.scalemotorcars.com/forum/members/tommaso_iuele.html)Hi tunedbysaturnsl1, added in the list.
Here is the list of this forum: (http://www.scalemotorcars.com/forum/members/tommaso_iuele.html)

(http://www.scalemotorcars.com/forum/members/tommaso_iuele.html)1. Noddy
2. superfly
3. 3.Star
4. CitroenTA
5. Michael0815
6. roymattblack
7. Guiddy
(http://www.scalemotorcars.com/forum/members/tommaso_iuele.html)8. tunedbysaturnsl1 (http://www.scalemotorcars.com/forum/members/tommaso_iuele.html)

6 more in another website

Please be aware all who joined the list ...that before ..me asking anything... I will provide photos of the finished upgrades so for honesty everbody can check what they get. Of course my transkit will be very accurate and highly detailed with instructions and photo-reference..."just like my work".

all the best Tommaso (http://www.scalemotorcars.com/forum/members/tommaso_iuele.html)1thumbup1

Val33
12-30-13, 05:29 AM
Hi Tommaso, +1 one for me too please.

thanks

Val

tommaso_iuele
12-30-13, 06:01 AM
Hi Tommaso, +1 one for me too please.

thanks

Val


1. Noddy
2. superfly
3. 3.Star
4. CitroenTA
5. Michael0815
6. roymattblack
7. Guiddy
(http://www.scalemotorcars.com/forum/members/tommaso_iuele.html)8. tunedbysaturnsl1 (http://www.scalemotorcars.com/forum/members/tommaso_iuele.html)
9. Vall331thumbup1

Guiddy
12-30-13, 06:09 AM
Hi Tommaso.
I have a few questions which I am sure others will ask.

My name, Guiddy, appears next to roymattblack. You do know we are two different people?

Approximately how long do you think will be the waiting time?

Approximately how much will be the cost, and will you want full payment or a deposit first?

Many thanks my friend.

tommaso_iuele
12-30-13, 06:24 AM
Hi Tommaso.
I have a few questions which I am sure others will ask.

My name, Guiddy, appears next to roymattblack. You do know we are two different people?

Approximately how long do you think will be the waiting time?

Approximately how much will be the cost, and will you want full payment or a deposit first?

Many thanks my friend.


Timing I believe 1 month no more than 2
No deposit first.
Cost? I will have to check on my return.... with drawings and ect..... dosen't take to long to quote.
There will be probably 2 sets . "Basic and Pro"

Basic: with all the details, photoecth parts and screws and wiring, photo reference
Pro: New rims (resin or steel) ...roof (Roadster version) with all the materials needed

Hope this will help..
all the best T..1thumbup1

superfly
12-30-13, 09:43 AM
Tommaso..will you be making new tires along with the rims?...I don't know what it is about the kit's tires....they look like plastic and the side wall profile looks too tall. I'm not sure if the rims are under sized or its just the tires alone...

Ton started a poll to see who would be interested in new tires for the Aventador...but no one is really putting their input.

HighEnder
12-30-13, 09:59 AM
@tommaso, Add me to your list for that transkit detailing you're working on. Thanks by the way for providing painting info regarding the amount. Very big help!



(http://www.scalemotorcars.com/forum/members/tommaso_iuele.html)Hi tunedbysaturnsl1, added in the list.
Here is the list of this forum: (http://www.scalemotorcars.com/forum/members/tommaso_iuele.html)

(http://www.scalemotorcars.com/forum/members/tommaso_iuele.html)1. Noddy
2. superfly
3. 3.Star
4. CitroenTA
5. Michael0815
6. roymattblack
7. Guiddy
(http://www.scalemotorcars.com/forum/members/tommaso_iuele.html)8. tunedbysaturnsl1 (http://www.scalemotorcars.com/forum/members/tommaso_iuele.html)

6 more in another website

Please be aware all who joined the list ...that before ..me asking anything... I will provide photos of the finished upgrades so for honesty everbody can check what they get. Of course my transkit will be very accurate and highly detailed with instructions and photo-reference..."just like my work".

all the best Tommaso (http://www.scalemotorcars.com/forum/members/tommaso_iuele.html)1thumbup1

@Tommaso, I am looking forward to see your work. Please let me know if you are ready.

superfly
12-30-13, 10:25 AM
I'm also a bit concerned about the seats..are they rubber? I'm concerned about using the correct type of paint? oil based?
I'd feel better if they were re-cast in resin...then we don'y have to worry about paint not sticking or drying properly

superfly
12-30-13, 11:30 AM
Scale Auto Works's finally getting our kits...still be another couple weeks before it hits my doorstep. I won't be able to do any painting in this climate anyways...besides I'm holding off to see what aftermarket stuff come available.

.....meanwhile..I'll be following all the excellent builds and getting great build tips on this site..

CitroenTA
12-30-13, 11:39 AM
...besides I'm holding off to see what aftermarket stuff come available.

.....meanwhile..I'll be following all the excellent builds and getting great build tips on this site..
Me too.
I think that I can get my Bianco Isis about in two weeks, maybe the 15th of January or so.

tommaso_iuele
12-30-13, 05:57 PM
I'm also a bit concerned about the seats..are they rubber? I'm concerned about using the correct type of paint? oil based?
I'd feel better if they were re-cast in resin...then we don'y have to worry about paint not sticking or drying properly


If you use a good elastic base coat on seats, your final colour will dry properly. Use flat colours for rubber. It will do the job.

tks1thumbup1

superfly
01-02-14, 03:41 PM
I got my shipping notice from Scale Auto Works!there is a 17min....unboxing on Youtube for those who haven't got theirs ..and also a 5 part build log..on Youtube

Guiddy
01-02-14, 04:56 PM
I got my shipping notice from Scale Auto Works!there is a 17min....unboxing on Youtube for those who haven't got theirs ..and also a 5 part build log..on Youtube

...and still it won't prepare you for how big the box is!!! he1he

superfly
01-02-14, 10:33 PM
Ok another....misleading instruction.....WD-17 (waterslide decal..fuel logo..in the revised instructions!....it appears to put the decal on top of the fuel flap...on the outside....should be on the inside....Someone posted a finished build and i noticed that they put the logo on the outside....its a bright green logo!

In the instructions... seems like when the red lines (showing location)...if its a dark red...it means place on top of part....but if its a faint red...it means through the part...or other side of the part.


http://www.scalemotorcars.com/forum/images/imported/2014/01/3.jpg

roymattblack
01-03-14, 05:32 AM
Not sure who's model that is, but the panel fit looks pretty poor.
Hopefully it only needs a bit of adjustment.......

Roy.

tommaso_iuele
01-03-14, 02:25 PM
@Tommaso, I am looking forward to see your work. Please let me know if you are ready.

I will start on Jannuary 6 and step by step will be posted.
Tks

P.s If you want see some of my work visit:

Pocher Ferrari testarossa:
Final pocher testarossa spider 1/8 fully detailed - FerrariChat.com (http://www.ferrarichat.com/forum/collectables-literature-models/356890-final-pocher-testarossa-spider-1-8-fully-detailed.html)

Lamborghini Gallardo o Aventador scale 1:10:
I'm back - Lamborghini gallardo LP540 - Lamborghini aventador scale 1:10 - FerrariChat.com (http://www.ferrarichat.com/forum/collectables-literature-models/381426-im-back-lamborghini-gallardo-lp540-lamborghini-aventador-scale-1-10-a.html)

or my personal site
tommasoiuele.wordpress.com

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superfly
01-03-14, 02:38 PM
Why don't we start a wishlist of upgrade parts? If the producers of transkits know what we'd like to see improved on this kit...It will benefit us all...

1. Seat replacement (resin seats with dry transfer stitching in various colors)
2. New set of Tires
3. disc brakes
4. all metal shocks front and rear (adjustable would be nice)
5. Front and rear differentials and shafts and dust boots (resin/metal...complete with top halves)
6. Carbon Fiber decals with templates for various trim pieces
7. Heat Shielding (self adhesive)
8. Aventador roadster rims
9. Various Hex bolts to replace screws.
10. photo-etch air vents...(interior)
11. Decal for navigation screen w/ clear part for screen
12. 3D photo-etch emblem for steering wheel.
13. photo-etched foot pedals and rests.
14. photo-etched windshield wipers w/ rubber blades
15. metal rims (not black)
16 photo-etch start button...flips up to show "start/stop" button detail.
17. metal-transfer release handles for doors and trunk
18. movable sun visors
19. photo-etch data plates
20. photo-etch "REMOVE BEFORE FLIGHT" tag.....haha...just kidding
21. photo-etch radiators with radiator mesh
22. bushings for all moving parts.

HighEnder
01-03-14, 02:40 PM
Tommaso,

I looked at your photos. Only one word: Amazing.
After seeing your photos you can put me on the list for your transkit, also.

Great work1nworthy1

HighEnder
01-03-14, 02:44 PM
Good idea. I would propose to start a new thread.

HighEnder
01-03-14, 03:54 PM
Why don't we start a wishlist of upgrade parts? If the producers of transkits know what we'd like to see improved on this kit...It will benefit us all...1. Seat replacement (resin seats with dry transfer stitching in various colors)2. New set of Tires 3. disc brakes4. all metal shocks front and rear (adjustable would be nice)5. Front and rear differentials and shafts and dust boots (resin...complete with top halves)6. Carbon Fiber decals with templates for various trim pieces7. Heat Shielding (self adhesive)8. Aventador roadster rims9. Various Hex bolts to replace screws.10. photo-etch air vents...(interior)11. Decal for navigation screen w/ clear part for screen12. 3D photo-etch emblem for steering wheel.13. photo-etched foot pedals and rests.14.14. Photo etches windshield wipers15. Metal rims - not only the black ones16.

Ton
01-03-14, 05:20 PM
Awful, but I've seen it with all their old stuff

???

Tourpretendent
01-03-14, 07:00 PM
???

Hello Ton,
At first I didn’t understand this reply as well. However he's replying to the picture of the white Aventador on the previous page. For sure that’s a problematic fit of the body panels to say the least.
Regards, Ronald

tommaso_iuele
01-03-14, 08:28 PM
Tommaso,

I looked at your photos. Only one word: Amazing.
After seeing your photos you can put me on the list for your transkit, also.

Great work1nworthy1

tks1thumbup1

superfly
01-06-14, 09:13 AM
Lamborghini HURACÁN LP 610-4 (http://www.9tro.com/news/the-new-lamborghini-huracan)
nice design cues on this new Lamborghini.

tommaso_iuele
01-06-14, 05:12 PM
new list.

1. Noddy
2. superfly
3. 3.Star
4. CitroenTA
5. Michael0815
6. roymattblack
7. Guiddy
(http://www.scalemotorcars.com/forum/members/tommaso_iuele.html)8. tunedbysaturnsl1 (http://www.scalemotorcars.com/forum/members/tommaso_iuele.html)
9. Vall33
10. Kai

Sideshow
01-06-14, 05:59 PM
new list.[URL="http://www.scalemotorcars.com/forum/members/tommaso_iuele.html"][COLOR=#000080]1. Noddy2. superfly3. 3.Star4. CitroenTA 5. Michael08156. roymattblack 7. Guiddy8. tunedbysaturnsl19. Vall3310. KaiTHANK YOU for adding me to the list! Can't wait to see the first prototype images of the transkit.i am sure it will rock the house!Kind Regards, Kai

superfly
01-06-14, 06:49 PM
Can we get a group buy...or special price for members? ...if we get enough people?

KRAFTIG
01-06-14, 09:55 PM
Hi, I may be interested in the kit too. What are we looking at price wise? TIA

superfly
01-06-14, 11:59 PM
Lamborghini aventador 1/8 pocher - Page : 3 - Maquettes ou Kits à monter - Modélisme et modèles réduits - FORUM Pratique (http://www.forum-auto.com/automobile-pratique/modelisme-modeles-reduits/sujet12618-70.htm)

Excellent wip...two tone blue interior with a light up dash....Amazing work....must be a white Aventador!

Love the blue trim on the steering wheel

tunedbysaturnsl1
01-07-14, 01:08 AM
Lamborghini aventador 1/8 pocher - Page : 3 - Maquettes ou Kits à monter - Modélisme et modèles réduits - FORUM Pratique (http://www.forum-auto.com/automobile-pratique/modelisme-modeles-reduits/sujet12618-70.htm)

Excellent wip...two tone blue interior with a light up dash....Amazing work....must be a white Aventador!

Love the blue trim on the steering wheel

Oh wow! That steering wheel trim is amazing. Very nicely done. The light up dash gives it that extra touch. Makes me want to buy one even more. 1clap1

tommaso_iuele
01-07-14, 03:30 AM
Can we get a group buy...or special price for members? ...if we get enough people?

Ill all depends of how many people join the list.. I will let you know.
Tks

HighEnder
01-07-14, 04:28 AM
Ill all depends of how many people join the list.. I will let you know.TksHi Tommaso,Could you please add my name on the list, as well.

tommaso_iuele
01-07-14, 03:17 PM
new list.

1. Noddy
2. superfly
3. 3.Star
4. CitroenTA
5. Michael0815
6. roymattblack
7. Guiddy
(http://www.scalemotorcars.com/forum/members/tommaso_iuele.html)8. tunedbysaturnsl1 (http://www.scalemotorcars.com/forum/members/tommaso_iuele.html)
9. Vall33
10. Kai
11. KRAFTIG (http://www.scalemotorcars.com/forum/members/kraftig.html)
12: Markus
13. Blacklion213


(http://www.scalemotorcars.com/forum/members/blacklion213.html)always tks to everone (http://www.scalemotorcars.com/forum/members/blacklion213.html)

superfly
01-07-14, 06:47 PM
Tommaso what leather did you use for the interior on your Testarossa? Lamb skin??

superfly
01-07-14, 10:02 PM
Regarding fine textured paint..in spray cans
...sorry to keep bringing this up


Valspar Suede
McCloskey Special effects Suede
Rust-Oleum Terra Cotta

tommaso_iuele
01-08-14, 02:22 AM
Tommaso what leather did you use for the interior on your Testarossa? Lamb skin??

Hi Superfly
the interior it painted ...tan flat with red and blue tamiya and the carpet is real.....matts that have real stitching on borders and emblem

Tks1thumbup1

roymattblack
01-08-14, 06:16 AM
In response to a few previous postings - I'm not sure if anyone has any different versions of this kit, but my door shells (skins - outside body) are METAL.
There are a few comments about them being plastic. Nope - metal.
I received my kit mid December but only just unpacked it for a nice look.
BIG MISTAKE - Almost impossible to get it all back in the box.
I have to say what I've seen though is flippin' fantastic!

Looking forward to the detail kit so I can start.

Roy.

Cobra 56
01-08-14, 06:39 AM
I bought the orange one. The doors is definitely metal. I tried to scrape some paint, on inside the door off with a screwdriver, and yes it is metal, no doubt about it.

HighEnder
01-08-14, 06:50 AM
The doors of the Aventador are in metal. But there are also some painted parts for the body which are build in plastic.
You can see the parts on the top of the attached picture.
These plastic parts are also wrapped in tissue paper to protect the surface.
25138

Val33
01-08-14, 07:49 AM
I have the orange kit. The paint on the metal parts is generally of an ok quality, not perfect but ok. The paint on the orange plastic parts is poor. Many bits of dirt in it and a rough finish. It is clear that the plastic parts have not received any flatting or polishing, whereas the metal parts have. This is a shame as it does let the kit down. Its ok for me as I have the experience to flat and polish for myself, but others may have issues.
I also have some alignment issues with the engine cover. I have managed to get it to fit nicely with the rear wings and the spoiler, but the shut line with the roof is poor. It seems to be sitting too high, worst on the right side. I think that I am going to have to grind down the hinge mounting point on that side to get it down.
I've not assembled the doors or front yet, but suspect that there will be further alignment issues judging by pictures on the net of completed kits. Hey-ho, all part of the fun!

Val

superfly
01-08-14, 09:09 AM
I recieved my kit yesterday....a few issues......BIG scratch in the paint right on the front valance by the logo...1cm long....very noticable.....Some blemishes on the paint on the front hood/ bonnet.....paint looks flat in the firewall area....not glossy (white).....Lamborghini front emblem....though its not a flat decal...the letters and bull are not 3 dimensional...like a photo-etch.......my logo is also slightly out of register...the gold borders disappear in some areas.....Floor mats look like they were cut by hand....no laser cut.....no borders or emblems or scripts.....Engine cover.....back side has ejector pinmarks (round circles)...not sure if the other pieces will cover this .......if not....it has to be filled, sanded and re-painted.I've ordered new paint and will strip and repaint the entire car matt black....I'd like to see better floor mats and front emblem included in a transkit.

STARK
01-08-14, 10:16 AM
I recieved my kit yesterday....a few issues......BIG scratch in the paint right on the front valance by the logo...1cm long....very noticable.....Some blemishes on the paint on the front hood/ bonnet.....paint looks flat in the firewall area....not glossy (white).....Lamborghini front emblem....though its not a flat decal...the letters and bull are not 3 dimensional...like a photo-etch.......my logo is also slightly out of register...the gold borders disappear in some areas.....Floor mats look like they were cut by hand....no laser cut.....no borders or emblems or scripts.....Engine cover.....back side has ejector pinmarks (round circles)...not sure if the other pieces will cover this .......if not....it has to be filled, sanded and re-painted.I've ordered new paint and will strip and repaint the entire car matt black....I'd like to see better floor mats and front emblem included in a transkit.Wow you seem to have received a faulty piece mate. Better return it and ask for replacement.

STARK
01-08-14, 10:19 AM
new list.1. Noddy2. superfly3. 3.Star4. CitroenTA 5. Michael08156. roymattblack 7. Guiddy (http://www.scalemotorcars.com/forum/members/tommaso_iuele.html)8. tunedbysaturnsl1 (http://www.scalemotorcars.com/forum/members/tommaso_iuele.html)9. Vall3310. Kai 11. KRAFTIG (http://www.scalemotorcars.com/forum/members/kraftig.html)12: Markus 13. Blacklion213 (http://www.scalemotorcars.com/forum/members/blacklion213.html)always tks to everone (http://www.scalemotorcars.com/forum/members/blacklion213.html)Add me too.

STARK
01-08-14, 10:27 AM
Sorry is this list for Pocher Aventador transkit??

superfly
01-08-14, 12:02 PM
Wow you seem to have received a faulty piece mate. Better return it and ask for replacement.Brady from Scale Auto Works will be sending a replacement emblem...and offered to replace the scratched front body part.....excellent customer service!I'm going to keep the body part and repaint the entire car anyways ....just bought the Iwata Revolution Trigger airbrush....its perfect for a biig job like this...I'm not to happy with the paint with all the body parts...Im very picky....so I'll clean them up ....take them off the sprue...putty and sand and prime everything......I can see this being a nice long project.