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crawler07
12-15-09, 05:10 PM
Heres my attempt at a brass build. I will be building a 5 ton army truck from scratch the materials will be brass copper styrene and aluminum.
Heres the start of it leading up to where I am currently at.


http://www.scalemotorcars.com/forum/images/imported/2009/12/1.jpg?t=1260914750

crawler07
12-15-09, 05:14 PM
http://www.scalemotorcars.com/forum/images/imported/2009/12/1.jpg?t=1260915096

http://www.scalemotorcars.com/forum/images/imported/2009/12/1.jpg?t=1260915122

http://www.scalemotorcars.com/forum/images/imported/2009/12/1.jpg?t=1260915143


http://www.scalemotorcars.com/forum/images/imported/2009/12/1.jpg?t=1260915162
This will be a 6x6 RC that has a 3 speed trans with a transfer case and I will be running RC4WDs blackwell axles.

xken
12-15-09, 05:25 PM
Looks like you are off to a great start. Look forward to following this build. gringrin1thumbup1

Ken 1gramps1

crawler07
12-15-09, 05:33 PM
Thanks Ken! It looks like I will be slowing down a little my Dad just called and ashed if I would help him out with his kitchen floor..But Ill be back!

ScaleMotorcars
12-15-09, 05:49 PM
Very nice. Next months M.O.T.M. is going to a tough one.

Keep those ;';;';coming !!!

hot ford coupe
12-16-09, 08:18 AM
That Looks great!! A great start is right. I'm definitely going to follow this one.

Old Busted Hotness
12-17-09, 07:11 AM
Great work on that brass body! It's a shame to hide those axles, but at least you're hiding them under something awesome.

crawler07
12-17-09, 03:31 PM
Thanks Stu! Yea these axles are the coolest scale axles out.. I hope to have enough detail in the body and frame to complement the axles...Keep watchin I have plans to make the suspended drivers seat so the driver bounces with the bumps!!!

ScaleMotorcars
12-17-09, 03:44 PM
What axles are those? I cant make them out.

hot ford coupe
12-17-09, 07:34 PM
Those axles are a military secret, Dan. You need at least a secret clearance to view them and from at least 30 yards. I can send you some military paperwork so you can get to see them but I don't have enough refrigerator cartons to put all that paper into.

crawler07
12-17-09, 08:42 PM
You guys are crazy!! Their called blackwells and their made by a company called RC4WD. Theor made to resemble 2.5 ton deuce and a half truck axles....Ill post a better pic of them tomorrow...

crawler07
03-11-10, 02:52 PM
Ok fellas heres the lates on the 5 ton..
Made a wooden buck to form the copper over
http://www.scalemotorcars.com/forum/images/imported/2010/03/112.jpg

Than cut the reliefs in the sides of it.
http://www.scalemotorcars.com/forum/images/imported/2010/03/113.jpg

http://www.scalemotorcars.com/forum/images/imported/2010/03/114.jpg

http://www.scalemotorcars.com/forum/images/imported/2010/03/115.jpg

then added a block to the bottom so the vise would have something to hold onto.
http://www.scalemotorcars.com/forum/images/imported/2010/03/115.jpg

then after much pounding and cursing
http://www.scalemotorcars.com/forum/images/imported/2010/03/116.jpg

Then to finish it off
http://www.scalemotorcars.com/forum/images/imported/2010/03/117.jpg

http://www.scalemotorcars.com/forum/images/imported/2010/03/118.jpg

http://www.scalemotorcars.com/forum/images/imported/2010/03/119.jpg

Old Busted Hotness
03-11-10, 07:09 PM
Nice work! 1thumbup1 How much smoothing is it gonna take?

crawler07
03-11-10, 07:50 PM
Well Stu the camera doesnt pick up on all the dents left by the hammer, but theirs alot of them. Fortunatly their all small so alittle sanding a little more beating with the hammer and some more sanding should get out most of it. Im not to worried about getting every imperfection out since I will be weathering it...

hot ford coupe
03-11-10, 08:20 PM
That's great Crawler. Thanks for showing us how it's done. That's what I'm going to need to experiment with. 1clap1

venomone
03-17-10, 11:27 AM
very cool... great build...

crawler07
04-07-10, 08:58 AM
made a little more head way..
http://www.scalemotorcars.com/forum/images/imported/2010/04/63.jpg

http://www.scalemotorcars.com/forum/images/imported/2010/04/64.jpg

found a driver
http://www.scalemotorcars.com/forum/images/imported/2010/04/66.jpg

http://www.scalemotorcars.com/forum/images/imported/2010/04/68.jpg

http://www.scalemotorcars.com/forum/images/imported/2010/04/69.jpg

http://www.scalemotorcars.com/forum/images/imported/2010/04/71.jpg

http://www.scalemotorcars.com/forum/images/imported/2010/04/73.jpg
http://www.scalemotorcars.com/forum/images/imported/2010/04/75.jpg

xken
04-07-10, 09:11 AM
Looks like some great metal work going on here. Could you share more detail on the guage of copper and are you working with dead soft or half hard or just plain roof flashing? And the forming process itself.

Keep up the great work! 1thumbup1

Ken 1gramps1

crawler07
04-08-10, 10:21 AM
Thanks Ken. I am using half hard stock and Im using a few different gauges of brass. And as far as forming it I first build the top and side dimensions from card stock then I transfer that to a chunk of wood(oak) then I cut it out and sand it to its final shape. Then I clamp a piece of brass to the form and start hammering the basic shape into it. After that I use propane heat to soften the brass even more then I bend in the tighter spots with heat and hammering. If I have overlaped joints at that time I just mark one side of the brass and remove one side with hand shears. Then but the pieces together and braze it up. I will check the gauge of the materials when I get home tonight.

Old Busted Hotness
04-08-10, 12:28 PM
This is turning into a real beast! 1thumbup1

crawler07
04-10-10, 04:17 PM
Thanks Stu!
Got the door on the tool box.
http://www.scalemotorcars.com/forum/images/imported/2010/04/113.jpg

http://www.scalemotorcars.com/forum/images/imported/2010/04/114.jpg

http://www.scalemotorcars.com/forum/images/imported/2010/04/115.jpg

Old Busted Hotness
04-10-10, 06:20 PM
Looks like a good place to hide a receiver!

crawler07
04-13-10, 12:55 AM
That was my first though as well as using the fuel tank to hide electronics, but I think I will place them in a wooden box I will build to haul in the bed. I figure that will be the best way to keep it out of the water...
Ok I did make a little progress
Built the fuel tank
http://www.scalemotorcars.com/forum/images/imported/2010/04/180.jpg

http://www.scalemotorcars.com/forum/images/imported/2010/04/181.jpg

http://www.scalemotorcars.com/forum/images/imported/2010/04/182.jpg

http://www.scalemotorcars.com/forum/images/imported/2010/04/183.jpg

http://www.scalemotorcars.com/forum/images/imported/2010/04/184.jpg

A few deails , fuel cap,and a sending unit.
http://www.scalemotorcars.com/forum/images/imported/2010/04/185.jpg

http://www.scalemotorcars.com/forum/images/imported/2010/04/186.jpg

And some straps to hold the tank to the soon to be made frame to tank brackets.
http://www.scalemotorcars.com/forum/images/imported/2010/04/187.jpg

crawler07
04-14-10, 03:43 PM
Made the mount for the fuel tank which I will copy for the pass and drivers steps.
http://www.scalemotorcars.com/forum/images/imported/2010/04/196.jpg

http://www.scalemotorcars.com/forum/images/imported/2010/04/198.jpg

http://www.scalemotorcars.com/forum/images/imported/2010/04/199.jpg

http://www.scalemotorcars.com/forum/images/imported/2010/04/200.jpg

Mocking up the trans and the motor.
http://www.scalemotorcars.com/forum/images/imported/2010/04/202.jpg

http://www.scalemotorcars.com/forum/images/imported/2010/04/203.jpg

http://www.scalemotorcars.com/forum/images/imported/2010/04/204.jpg

hot ford coupe
04-14-10, 05:44 PM
Beautiful brass work. I've got to try some more of this. I'm aching to build a metal aircraft like that. Keep on showing how you do it. Thanks.

crawler07
04-14-10, 11:16 PM
I hope to be getting my soldering iron soon so I can do the small stuff.. I think it will be alot easier to do than the propane torch I have been using.. Thanks for the complement and I will be sure to post as I make more progress.....

hot ford coupe
04-15-10, 12:24 AM
Thanks crawler.

crawler07
04-18-10, 01:33 PM
Figured out the tank straps.
http://www.scalemotorcars.com/forum/images/imported/2010/04/210.jpg

http://www.scalemotorcars.com/forum/images/imported/2010/04/211.jpg

http://www.scalemotorcars.com/forum/images/imported/2010/04/212.jpg

http://www.scalemotorcars.com/forum/images/imported/2010/04/213.jpg

kaptain Jack
05-10-10, 09:17 AM
This is fantastic,as a goldsmith in my youth, I can say: you fully qualify to bear a title of a Master.

BrassBuilder
05-10-10, 08:34 PM
Wowzers. This is really nice work. I started to build a M915A1 semi here:

http://www.scalemotorcars.com/forum/large-scale-cars/2090-military-semi-m915a1-scratchbuild.html

but got stuck on making the intake/exhaust manifold and the project sort of fell by the wayside. It pretty much looks like it does in the pictures yet. I have the motor displayed on a shelf at work and the frame and cab is on a shelf at home. I am in the midst of CNCing my lathe, so that is taking most of my time right now.

If I ever get back on this project, I want to redo the grille/radiator shroud. It turned out rougher than what I expected. That may be awhile yet as I am in the middle of a Master's degree for Information Technology. I should be done with that July 2011 and then I will get my life back to do the fun stuff like this.

Anyway...great work. You make me want to work on mine again.

Mike

crawler07
05-18-10, 08:46 PM
Brass builder that looks awesome how come you keep saying you need to redo everything? You should be super proud of your work and show it with confidence!!!I thank you for sharing it with me , and im honored that I could inspire you to start back on this project!

Heres the update for you guys to get you all up to speed on mine..
http://www.scalemotorcars.com/forum/images/imported/2010/05/141.jpg

http://www.scalemotorcars.com/forum/images/imported/2010/05/142.jpg

http://www.scalemotorcars.com/forum/images/imported/2010/05/143.jpg


http://www.scalemotorcars.com/forum/images/imported/2010/05/144.jpg

Front x member
http://www.scalemotorcars.com/forum/images/imported/2010/05/145.jpg

rear lower link mount/ spring mount
http://www.scalemotorcars.com/forum/images/imported/2010/05/146.jpg

http://www.scalemotorcars.com/forum/images/imported/2010/05/147.jpg

http://www.scalemotorcars.com/forum/images/imported/2010/05/148.jpg

crawler07
05-18-10, 08:53 PM
Heres some more..
more of the front xmember
http://www.scalemotorcars.com/forum/images/imported/2010/05/149.jpg

http://www.scalemotorcars.com/forum/images/imported/2010/05/150.jpg

http://www.scalemotorcars.com/forum/images/imported/2010/05/151.jpg

http://www.scalemotorcars.com/forum/images/imported/2010/05/152.jpg

fender mounts
http://www.scalemotorcars.com/forum/images/imported/2010/05/153.jpg

t case mount
http://www.scalemotorcars.com/forum/images/imported/2010/05/154.jpg

http://www.scalemotorcars.com/forum/images/imported/2010/05/155.jpg

http://www.scalemotorcars.com/forum/images/imported/2010/05/156.jpg

http://www.scalemotorcars.com/forum/images/imported/2010/05/157.jpg

http://www.scalemotorcars.com/forum/images/imported/2010/05/158.jpg

http://www.scalemotorcars.com/forum/images/imported/2010/05/159.jpg

upper xmember / rear cab mount
http://www.scalemotorcars.com/forum/images/imported/2010/05/160.jpg

http://www.scalemotorcars.com/forum/images/imported/2010/05/161.jpg

http://www.scalemotorcars.com/forum/images/imported/2010/05/162.jpg

http://www.scalemotorcars.com/forum/images/imported/2010/05/163.jpg

http://www.scalemotorcars.com/forum/images/imported/2010/05/164.jpg

driver step mount
http://www.scalemotorcars.com/forum/images/imported/2010/05/165.jpg

http://www.scalemotorcars.com/forum/images/imported/2010/05/166.jpg

air tanks will go behind the drivers box/step
http://www.scalemotorcars.com/forum/images/imported/2010/05/167.jpg

BrassBuilder
05-18-10, 09:30 PM
Brass builder that looks awesome how come you keep saying you need to redo everything? You should be super proud of your work and show it with confidence!!!I thank you for sharing it with me , and im honored that I could inspire you to start back on this project!


The front grille/radiator shroud is really rough. It was my first try at metal forming and I think I can do a lot better. The holes is the step plate going up to the cab are not uniform. That part is easy to remake now that I have the mill CNCd. I just need to draw up the center points of the holes and let the program drill everything. I am fairly picky on what I will call "done" and if I have to make a part over a few times, so be it.

I am impressed with your latest update. Great work. 1clap1

Mike

hot ford coupe
05-18-10, 11:36 PM
Man, do we have a bunch of talented builders or what!!! I could look at this stuff all day. Hey wait a minute. I do look at this stuff all day.

crawler07
05-18-10, 11:45 PM
Thanks guys! I understand what your saying about making it perfect brass builder, Thats why im glad Im building a retired military rig. All the imperfections ,dents,scrapes,and what not can be hidden in the final paint to look like battle scars!!!Ill keep you guys posted and thanks again for the encouraging words...

xken
05-19-10, 06:55 AM
http://www.scalemotorcars.com/forum/images/imported/image_missing.jpg

Crawler07 Your work is looking great! keep it up. On a structural note, I am assuming you are using silver solder on the standing flange butt joint. I have had on occassion joint like this fail under load and have had to go back and either make the part as one piece once I figured out the geometry or have added a 90 degree doubler that mated the flange and the parent part. Solder really relies on surface contact to be strong. It appears that you have a drive mechanism bolted to the flange; would hate to see it fail down the road. But I also do not know how much stress or loading it has to take.

Just a heads up based upon my experience. 1thumbup1

Ken1gramps1

Looks like I cannot copy your pics; the flange in question is in the 14-16 images down from the top.

crawler07
05-19-10, 05:06 PM
Thanks Ken, The part your talking about is sitting on a single piece going from one side of the frame to the other side the added support is just their for looks and a little more support...As for using the silver solder, will a 140 watt iron be enough to melt it??

Old Busted Hotness
05-21-10, 06:50 AM
140 watts should be plenty.

Really looking good so far 1thumbup1

xken
05-21-10, 08:33 AM
crawler07 that should be plenty, my old iron is 120 watts. Also check out your local plumbing supplier and buy/order your Staybrite solder through them. It is available in various diameters in 1 pound rolls; and much more cost effective than through hobby supliers. I have 1/32" and 1/16th diameter rolls. Unless you eat the stuff 1 pound rolls will last quite awhile; also get the Staybrite flux in 16 fluid oz. container. These are not stocked items at most places; but they can order it for you; my local plumbing supplier had them to me in a few days.

I also clean the solder joints with q-tips and acetone, which does the best job with no residue to aggavate you later on down the road when finishing.

Ken 1gramps1

crawler07
05-23-10, 09:29 AM
Thanks Ken, I will have to get with the local hardware store and check about the larg rolls. I have also been meaning to get some acetone since I had read about it in your thread..

Not totaly scale but I think their built tough enough to hold up to this big pig.
http://www.scalemotorcars.com/forum/images/imported/2010/05/176.jpg
these are the spring mounts for the front.


here they are all pieced together on with the springs..
http://www.scalemotorcars.com/forum/images/imported/2010/05/177.jpg

and now with the xtra height I now have to redo the shackle points. I will be making some shackle mounts to attach to the bottom of the frame (which will look way more scale than the old set up). Also figuring out the shock mount set up..
http://www.scalemotorcars.com/forum/images/imported/2010/05/178.jpg

http://www.scalemotorcars.com/forum/images/imported/2010/05/179.jpg


under shot.
http://www.scalemotorcars.com/forum/images/imported/2010/05/180.jpg

the shocks I will be using
http://www.scalemotorcars.com/forum/images/imported/2010/05/181.jpg

crawler07
05-30-10, 01:59 AM
got it running!!woo hoo!!!
Its far from finished ,but I should get pretty far this week!!
http://s180.photobucket.com/albums/x189/RCJEEPBUILDER/?action=view&current=105_0728.flv

http://s180.photobucket.com/albums/x189/RCJEEPBUILDER/?action=view&current=105_0727.flv

http://s180.photobucket.com/albums/x189/RCJEEPBUILDER/?action=view&current=105_0726-1.flv

crawler07
06-01-10, 09:10 PM
Built the grill and what a pain it was!!
http://www.scalemotorcars.com/forum/images/imported/2010/06/13.jpg

http://www.scalemotorcars.com/forum/images/imported/2010/06/14.jpg

http://www.scalemotorcars.com/forum/images/imported/2010/06/15.jpg

http://www.scalemotorcars.com/forum/images/imported/2010/06/16.jpg

crawler07
06-01-10, 09:12 PM
http://http://s180.photobucket.com/albums/x189/RCJEEPBUILDER/?action=view&current=105_0728.flv

http://http://s180.photobucket.com/albums/x189/RCJEEPBUILDER/?action=view&current=105_0727.flv

http://http://s180.photobucket.com/albums/x189/RCJEEPBUILDER/?action=view&current=105_0726-1.flv

crawler07
06-30-10, 01:11 PM
Sorry about the last post it was supposed to be videos???
Any ways its running(not finished but running) and it handles just like the real deal!!!

I have been working like crazy to mount the cab to the chassis and this is what I came up with.
http://www.scalemotorcars.com/forum/images/imported/2010/06/307.jpg

http://www.scalemotorcars.com/forum/images/imported/2010/06/308.jpg
this piece will be made from brass and then I will attach one to the cab and one to the top and it will be how their bolted together.
http://www.scalemotorcars.com/forum/images/imported/2010/06/309.jpg

http://www.scalemotorcars.com/forum/images/imported/2010/06/310.jpg

Old Busted Hotness
07-09-10, 07:48 AM
Really shaping up nicely! 1thumbup1 The grille looks fantastic.

crawler07
07-14-10, 07:56 AM
Thanks Stu! I made a little more progress.
http://www.scalemotorcars.com/forum/images/imported/2010/07/146.jpg
http://www.scalemotorcars.com/forum/images/imported/2010/07/147.jpg
http://www.scalemotorcars.com/forum/images/imported/2010/07/148.jpg
http://www.scalemotorcars.com/forum/images/imported/2010/07/149.jpg

http://www.scalemotorcars.com/forum/images/imported/2010/07/150.jpg
http://www.scalemotorcars.com/forum/images/imported/2010/07/151.jpg
http://www.scalemotorcars.com/forum/images/imported/2010/07/152.jpg
http://www.scalemotorcars.com/forum/images/imported/2010/07/153.jpg
http://www.scalemotorcars.com/forum/images/imported/2010/07/154.jpg
http://www.scalemotorcars.com/forum/images/imported/2010/07/155.jpg

Old Busted Hotness
07-14-10, 01:25 PM
How heavy is it now? That's a lot of brass.

crawler07
07-17-10, 12:28 AM
Ill get the pig on the scales tomorrow..

crawler07
10-10-12, 09:42 PM
well its been years and im still not finished with this build but in the past couple of years i have built another one of these cabs for a friend that posted all the pics of his 1:1 for me. he did it for me without asking for anything in return so I decided to build him one of these. heres the pics of it all finished and ready to shipp off to him.
http://www.scalemotorcars.com/forum/images/imported/2012/10/78.jpg

http://www.scalemotorcars.com/forum/images/imported/2012/10/79.jpg

http://www.scalemotorcars.com/forum/images/imported/2012/10/80.jpg

http://www.scalemotorcars.com/forum/images/imported/2012/10/81.jpg

and the crate i shipped it to him in.
http://www.scalemotorcars.com/forum/images/imported/2012/10/82.jpg
i gota say after building him the 2nd one I learned even more and now I think im going to redo the entire cab on mine. i will be sure to post as I build thanks for looking

BrassBuilder
10-11-12, 09:49 AM
I love the "shipping crate"! Nice work!

Mike

crawler07
02-13-14, 11:04 AM
thanks mike.
started on the exhaust still a long ways to go on it but its a start.
http://www.scalemotorcars.com/forum/images/imported/2014/02/48.jpg (http://s180.photobucket.com/user/RCJEEPBUILDER/media/5%20ton/5ton001_zps88a0873d.jpg.html)

http://www.scalemotorcars.com/forum/images/imported/2014/02/49.jpg (http://s180.photobucket.com/user/RCJEEPBUILDER/media/5%20ton/5ton002_zps62ec7002.jpg.html)

http://www.scalemotorcars.com/forum/images/imported/2014/02/50.jpg (http://s180.photobucket.com/user/RCJEEPBUILDER/media/5%20ton/5ton003_zps38d5de09.jpg.html)

crawler07
02-15-14, 12:08 AM
close to a finished exhaust.
http://www.scalemotorcars.com/forum/images/imported/2014/02/60.jpg (http://s180.photobucket.com/user/RCJEEPBUILDER/media/5%20ton/5ton003_zps940a893d.jpg.html)

http://www.scalemotorcars.com/forum/images/imported/2014/02/61.jpg (http://s180.photobucket.com/user/RCJEEPBUILDER/media/5%20ton/5ton005_zpsf8921404.jpg.html)

http://www.scalemotorcars.com/forum/images/imported/2014/02/62.jpg (http://s180.photobucket.com/user/RCJEEPBUILDER/media/5%20ton/5ton004_zps6bdb2f2e.jpg.html)

http://www.scalemotorcars.com/forum/images/imported/2014/02/63.jpg (http://s180.photobucket.com/user/RCJEEPBUILDER/media/5%20ton/5ton002_zps3eb2a046.jpg.html)

http://www.scalemotorcars.com/forum/images/imported/2014/02/64.jpg (http://s180.photobucket.com/user/RCJEEPBUILDER/media/5%20ton/5ton001_zps1e2b29d6.jpg.html)